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    9th Circuit calls $230/night Hawaii trip 'cost-effective'

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So a conference spending scandal this time involving federal judges the ninth Circuit Court of -- out of San Francisco.

Says it's going to Maui in Hawaii for their annual group get together.

On the itinerary sport fishing golf in yoga.

And albacore defending the island location by saying they got a good deal David Williams president the taxpayers' protection alliance with me now David good morning to you.

Boy this is crazy isn't it just on the -- with a lot of what they SA scandal -- -- they said it was a good pill would be -- thank.

A good point that's a good deal to go to Hawaii -- it's always a good deal to go to Hawaii wants someone else's and -- so.

I guess the right.

But with regard to GSA you're -- -- -- -- Highly active and do you actually went so far to say is that they need to cancel this they have or cancel it -- -- or -- open up their wallets and pay for the whole thing themselves why not pay for themselves.

These are not underpaid people and I was look at the itinerary one the the sessions about how to use an iPad.

I mean is this -- -- the need to go to Hawaii to figure out how to play Angry Birds are utterly you know David I could do that for them there.

Throw bad but they're at a San Francisco.

They are meeting in San Francisco or San Diego or Seattle or -- Is that -- natured of the geography here you cut him a break.

Well it's the nature that geography but also of our debt.

-- fifteen trillion dollars in debt and what taxpayers are looking for they're looking for any sort of gesture.

At anything that says okay we understood hint -- -- tough shape here we're gonna make some moves and they should cancel -- what they're doing is.

There is defending its more yet this -- -- out now and they keep on defending -- why not to say.

You know something we messed up we didn't really learn from the past and guess what.

We're gonna cancel this -- and asked for you get the money back from all down payments we made so that that's what tax -- -- this is something some simple gesture is what the chief judge said meeting in person reads.

Allows for -- frank constructive and civil open exchange of ideas.

And -- colleagues who may not see each other but for once a year to act this resource it's.

-- has ever done -- done yoga.

Have you ever done downward facing -- -- not the kind of interaction you have with other judges -- -- face to face contact is important and I get what you're saying here.

They apparently went looking to other locations one was an Idaho and what was in Alaska.

And now you've got a couple these senators who was it Jeff Sessions and Chuck Grassley saying at a cost at least a million dollars -- pull this off.

At the very least and for Idaho I can't imagine why -- go to Idaho.

And and the -- there's really not that much fun -- to who.

In in August but obviously now we is -- -- as a fun place to -- and what I don't understand this you have.

The executive branch doing this you have -- the congress on junkets.

And I may be the judges are feeling left out maybe they have to get into some of this action mean.

-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- This in the bigger point is this are people getting the message.

Now they're not.

That white people outside a Washington DC and then judges.

Are not getting the message and taxpayers keep on sending the message year after year election after election but for some reason.

They just they just don't get it whether an elected official or not elected official it's it's -- like you said.

Their tone deaf they don't understand that yes a million dollars is that gonna solve our debt and deficit absolutely not.

But it says we care we understand we want to make the right steps forward.

Aloha David thanks for coming in today -- I -- you say they must cancel we'll see whether or not that happens.