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Hello welcome to -- dog I'm Dr.
Manny did you know that dragon flies can become obese.
That's some geese suffer from depression.
And then -- -- -- dates back to the dinosaurs in fact animals suffer a lot of the same medical maladies as humans.
Joining me now is Barbara Madison Horowitz a cardiologist and author of -- big -- welcome -- You coined this term should be equity what does that mean.
Great so I'm you know I'm not human doctor take care human patients have a to have this opportunity to consult -- the Los Angeles zoo and -- animals and humans have the same disease as we -- And -- I wouldn't be interesting to look at human diseases through the lens of veterinary medicine a lot of patients some wish that there personal positions.
Were more like their veterinarians and and that's -- a lot.
So looking for a word to describe the union at -- veterinary and human medicine.
That became so -- -- -- if equity that's very Smart.
But let let let's face it you wouldn't you know not only -- cardiologists are very famous cardiology.
A cardiologist and and what what was it dad how come the the vets -- you what was the the connection there.
Zoos around the country make use of medical advisory boards just have to come to -- physicians and to help with.
Sometimes -- imaging or some technology -- so I was lucky enough to be one of those lucky physicians to come and help with the veterinarians.
I am and I'm listening cardiac ultrasound which is imaging of the heart.
Action and see and some other animals and I was listening to veterinarians talking and they talk about.
And obesity and cancer just like the.
We do as as regular physicians and that's very interesting that you you have learned a lot because this book is fascinating and I tell you don't get this book.
Because it's very good if there's there's some surprising medical conditions and animals so tell me about some of them.
So I mean I -- none of this man and I think a lot of physicians aren't aware of that their patients.
Share a lot in common with animals for example I'm.
That's serious take care cocker spaniel with breast cancer.
Miniature ponies with diabetes.
And he can't eat then as sexually transmitted diseases -- Wallace get chlamydia.
Killer whales with hodgkin's lymphoma -- mean there are many many parallels and they're not just physical their behavior.
Do do they look at you know sometimes yelling in when we talk about epidemiological medicine we -- -- a leading cause of death for women and say it's heart disease.
And certain cancers are on the rise do that -- they also look at the animal kingdom and say oh listen we have an obesity problems in the dog population and things like down.
Absolutely and it's this is exactly what and we went and encouragement to the equity is -- encourage physicians and patients to reach across the species divide and you know top to veterinarians and learn about animals -- shared problems.
Obesity is -- -- significant problem among cats and dogs are companion animals meant to 40% of them are now overweight and it's interesting if there's an overweight animal pet in the Stanley it's more likely to have an overweight -- family member -- things go together and it's not sure I know that's who in my house.
Kids can look at -- it's not just content animals.
Even some wild animals are getting fatter which is intriguing and asks is -- human obesity epidemic does it involve more than just diet and exercise other other fact thanks.
Is going on.
Let's have a little bit about cancer which is a fascinating topic had to tell me about cancer.
In that animal kingdom vs the human.
Right so if you look at and you know most human cancers occur in other animals breast cancer is an important causing a problem in human populations it cut it happens in some dogs and cats.
It happens in a number of animals kangaroos llama as I -- jab -- -- big cats.
So and interestingly there -- some -- it seemed to have it less and those are.
That the dairy cows and dairy goats they call them.
Professional -- staters SpinRite which is interesting because in the human medical literature breastfeeding has some protective properties absolutely.
That's what have you learned I mean.
Do in this kind of work and writing this book how are you going to be able to apply this in the future to -- your own practice.
Yeah I become a better doctor I work with veterinarians -- and I think that down most physicians could benefit.
You know learning that many behavioral problems happen in animals that we see in our human patients and people have.
There's a self starting sentiments and -- -- looks like anorexia nervosa sexual performance problems among stallions.
And you know even there's -- self harm some animals injure themselves the way.
And some human beings injure themselves a psychiatrist common cutters the fact that he's behavioral problems happen animals makes it possibly can for a patient or family member.
Of a patient has this problem and it expands their understanding that it sees it more broadly.
Even an innocent sort of sense normalize as it decreases the shame and the burden of guilt.
So it helps patients I think it's interesting for physicians to look at new -- hypotheses.
About shared cancers and that work is already being done to.
So either you think that doctors I believe should again.
And you know animal studies or animal research -- -- This pivotal in some of the discoveries that we have me for the human species but you you you seem don't look at the natural evolution of disease.
Well it's if you -- most doctors what animals can teach them about health -- points the lab exhibit prettiest about looking at spontaneously.
Right -- in animals all around us not just our dogs and cats.
But also wild animals fish birds.
So what -- What do you hope people will glean from home you don't get from getting this book.
And I think patients recover it we cover cancer we -- heart disease the cover and behavioral problems you know sexuality.
Addiction and and knowing that animals of many kinds Africans problems as well.
I think we'll help patients understand their problems more and hopefully my colleagues and metal community will reach out.
And collaborate with experience.
I think I think that you hit it right there because I think this book is both for patience and I think this book is for anybody involved.
In the medical health profession.
-- because certainly learn a lot from Apple's.
Well I thank you you hit it out of the park it's going to be a great book thank you and it's available everywhere.
Goodness thank you so much thank you.
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