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All right he's here Grover Norquist he sat down -- Republican leaders and he's here right now Grover.
What did you -- Well we had a conversation about how the taxpayer protection pledge will help tax reform next year the most important thing the pledge does is it.
Candidate makes a written commitment to an incumbent makes a written commitment.
To the American people not to need not to Americans for Tax Reform.
But the American people that they will oppose and vote against any effort to have a net tax increase.
Either directly in the -- in the loop holes -- that -- was getting rid of allowances.
You sit and get a lead -- -- there.
There's no there's no wind or no tax increase.
Without getting -- of deductions and credits and reducing rates so that its revenue neutral lower rates broadening the base that's fine that's tax reform.
They closed -- -- now and they address that serious reform next year.
Well that's of course the trap that Harry Reid and Obama want they want to you take all those guys yesterday now on that.
Well if you eliminate deductions and credits now and let the appropriators spend the money to pay for Obama's big government.
Two things go wrong -- and he spent all that money.
And the problem is spending too much already.
And true so next year when we -- -- -- tax reform.
How do you reduce the rates at the base if that tax deductions or credits have already been spent.
So the play.
He's got a good president Grover out of the Democrats would say -- -- here earlier sank.
You know what -- you save.
There via indignities.
Closing loopholes tax breaks -- will immediately go into deficit reduction.
-- Grover Norquist be OK with that.
-- deficit reduction means he spends it.
It doesn't it that he's not talking about allowing those deductions and credits to go away.
Cleveland now and I don't care about what I sank would you -- be open to a deal that means what every -- getting whatever.
Revenues you're getting from closing those loopholes and special special tax for exiles is Ronald Reagan himself was for closing because he wanted everyone to -- taxes something.
Well I would would you be OK with that if you could have a firm commitment that it would be going toward not -- spending cutting the deficit.
-- Kid thinks the pledges to the American people it's written down.
It doesn't require my commenting on it but the pledge says no eliminating deductions and credits and -- rates come down.
Dollar for dollar seeing -- is our moment -- -- -- is that they say okay mine in the same bill.
CIT given any wiggle room gross out -- you just -- guys I'm not budging.
Whether you're talking to be the American people.
That's attack site.
The American people can tell.
That what happened in 1982 eliminating deductions and credits.
With promises by all the Democrats that they wouldn't spend that money they spent at all.
They didn't cut spending they raise spent so it's gonna -- well.
All the -- the buck up that not full for what you think gives -- sort of faustian pact would Democrats.
Don't even -- about it.
But here's the goodness the Republicans in the house and the head of the Ways and Means Committee -- Kent -- camp was there.
He commented how helpful the pledge wise in protecting.
Tax reform in making tax reform possible and in protecting the American people.
John McCain doesn't -- -- John McCain doesn't feel that way Jeb Bush didn't feel that way so -- I -- with those guys that.
-- -- We have 236 members of the US house you've taken the pledge that's -- majority of the house.
The next -- the United States Mitt Romney has signed the taxpayer protection pledge to the American people.
On television on Sunday he reiterated no -- -- period spending is the problem spending must come down.
Tax increases feed spending.
He's an all -- they're not moving they're not budging you're not wiggling -- not moving or not but.
Now and Harry Reid can keep whining -- wants he's out of there.
Grover thank you very much the Grover nor -- -- well meanwhile.
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