George Zimmerman recounts fatal fight with Trayvon Martin
Legal panel weighs in on the case
- Duration 11:45
- Date Jun 21, 2012
Legal panel weighs in on the case
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Special -- -- in session today on the docket the story of what really happened the night trade on Martin died according.
To the man accused of killing him.
Almost immediately after the seventeen year old Martin was shot dead last winter police took George Zimmerman.
A volunteer neighborhood -- to the scene.
And asked him to show them exactly what happened.
While the cameras were rolling and today for the first time we're hearing courtesy of mr.
-- -- government's lawyer who released these tapes his version of the events.
In his own words watch this.
-- -- There but he was walking towards me.
Yes sir I believe that like it's that I would story perhaps that's I didn't see exactly.
Where he came from.
He was about where you war and -- and I don't have a problem and I week's program myself.
I love to do different pocket and I when I look now in my pocket PC you got a problem now and then she was here he punched me in the face.
Greatest up around here.
I don't remember exactly.
-- I stumbled.
I felt now he pushed -- down somehow he got on top of the resolution.
It was an -- moreover.
-- -- -- -- Users can help help his love.
That is when he grabbed pole ice actually sit up and that's when he grabbed me by the -- and charges.
Slammed my head down.
It's new my body was on the ground.
It was on the -- That's the second field in my Jack.
Look for what my body was on the grass -- it was on this.
And -- Nice thing.
Can you help.
His hand on -- -- -- -- And insurance we meet again because all I could think about -- when -- hitting.
It's going who's going to explode.
So -- weren't so that I can get it.
Had a small portion of my head on the concrete structure to square off concrete.
Somebody here open the door.
-- helped me and they said oh my and one -- you know help me thank you couple.
And I don't know what they did but.
That's my jacket.
-- -- Jack didn't.
And he saw I.
Feel like you saw it looked at it he says you can have gotten.
So are -- going down side.
And I grabbed it and I just got -- fire.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Here socialism -- -- he's feeling this.
And I didn't.
You say look you got me.
You gotta you -- you got us.
So I thought he was just saying we're done now -- heard I'm giving.
So -- Either way.
I got on top.
His arms and.
Look over I don't know.
-- -- And hitting things.
I thought he hasn't.
-- -- -- -- And I was on his back.
-- -- Did somebody -- Flash.
I thought it was a police officer.
So -- -- are you.
I still have my game.
Holmes you heard the police my -- -- here.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Please don't call the police and prisoners -- party called their -- way they did.
And -- Since when we -- Came around.
-- police officers stood up and -- He said.
-- -- and I didn't.
While joining me now David -- defense attorney and mark I -- former prosecutor now defense attorney.
So extraordinary is it not I mean have you ever seeming like this mess.
Unbelievable game changing day for all of us.
I actually now can envision a jury acquitting this guy.
Assuming there's no blockbuster evidence that we don't know about that somehow pulls major holes into his case.
I can't imagine that anyone if they're being intellectually honest.
Who would feel like so one can't use deadly force under the facts and circumstances that he relays them assuming them to.
Be true David is that it -- and of course assuming them to be true is there is a critical phrase there and that's that's going to be a jury's -- and you'll get on the stand and you'll give this same.
Account we presume.
-- Ron Martin confronted him so what he claims -- Martin -- the first pop punch.
To Ron Martin and then put his hand on on the guys -- other hand as the -- mouth and said -- -- F -- Zimmerman told that scenes story to police at least twice in exactly the same way.
Right after the event -- bond Martin was on top of him punching him sick it was saw the gun and said you're gonna die tonight and effort.
I mean if that is true David if that is true if he can convince a jury of those facts is there any question but that he will be acquitted.
Well if he can convince the jury that's the key thing -- but from the prosecutor's perspective.
They're gonna say look he lied under -- why would you like cops wherever he's not.
Objective third party witness who observe something he's the defendant and the defendant giving a story to avoid getting prosecuted.
Because he just shot someone now or -- he -- take the stand he can't just play this videotape in front of the jury and we takes the stand.
Evidence of his perjury will come in either from the first hearing where and when bail was decided or second hearing when he has the testified he's gonna get out of jail Megan.
-- -- -- Questions -- -- for you mark he didn't committing perjury and he.
Let's put that to decide okay exiled argue that credibility he's not an objective witness -- he's got -- he's got he's got you know horse in this race.
But who is there is no independent third party witness who couldn't Alice as far as we know.
Who started the fight.
Who threw the first punch or whether it's true.
About the dialogue being heard between the man I am I know of no pot party -- has made released under -- evidence.
-- speak to any of that there's only one mark and that's your bond's girlfriend who by phone claims that she heard.
Zimmerman first approach trim on Martin's so that's two people who have a dog in the fight -- -- issue -- that's.
Made you are dead on.
The bottom line is as they tell you -- the first pirate on pirates -- Caribbean will tell you.
Dead men don't tell tales very convenient because I'm sure -- bombing -- a different version of what took place whether he'd be be truthful or not.
Bottom line is those critical facts what led up to the shooting can only be disputed by someone who's no longer with us there will no ought not be any eyewitnesses that contradict what happened terms of the punching the banging of the head on the ground.
He is reasonably fearing death -- great bodily.
And and the thing is David how does a jury because he even had a girlfriend we presume testifying that she heard on the phone it was Zimmerman who confronted -- And then you're gonna have Zimmerman say it was the other way around isn't that reasonable doubt.
I mean you may get on its face.
Absolutely and it's going to come down to one key witness's credibility -- Zimmerman.
Now I've been the prosecution can impeach him to the extent that the jury just doesn't believe him based on the statements of his funds available -- bail based on the fact that he hid the he -- the second -- sport that he can tell the judge about.
Though it's not if this judge finds that's relevant and the prosecutor can impeach with those facts that the jury doesn't believe that one key which is -- -- Then they could.
-- -- -- -- -- And -- on the way and that and I let you do that immediately after the break we're gonna hold the court over causes a lot more to discuss we're gonna play a couple of other sound -- from the interrogation also extraordinary stay with us.
David Wal-Mart tacklers back with me mark you were gonna set.
Megan it would be a miscarriage of justice for this judge to somehow take what happened as a result of -- conspiracy.
To lie about the bond.
And -- -- disregard.
His testimony as to what happened on that night.
That -- a lot of credibility mentally unfair.
It should not be introduced -- -- the jury because it's more prejudicial than probative but if it does.
This judge is used to being lied to in a criminal system that happens every day -- used to being misled he can compartmentalize you could put that off.
He did put Martin back as -- back in jail.
But now we can focus exclusively on what what happened does the evidence support was Herman is saying appears to be yes -- -- 911 -- the physical evidence of what he's saying -- yes unless there's some witnessed up close and -- -- water.
That's what you got David I wanna ask you whether there's something incriminating on this tape with respect to his description of train on -- in Hawaii -- bond.
Caught his interest to begin with listen to -- and mr.
Zimmerman in the interrogation.
Didn't -- Russia get -- learning.
Hard -- Physical.
Exercise and he was you know run in the rain.
He usually don't play.
-- -- Maybe you want me.
Is that problematic David he looked.
Hard to -- or exercising physical he looked out of place from what they taught us neighborhood watch.
Yeah you know making young black male profiling -- could come in to damage him very much so by the prosecutor.
He has to take the witness stand this case -- there's no way around latest however.
-- below market I'll tell you something if the if the defense you're really gonna out of sync culturally silent and let him finish another -- mark.
Yeah you know what Reagan eight of -- I gotta say if these tapes as we saw this -- you were produced by police officers the defense may be able to call their officers to stand -- to publish a foundation for those for those tapes.
And actually play them to the jury because -- has got a Fifth Amendment right not to testify that it.
-- -- -- When that -- they never really tell the jurors and mark couldn't help -- get government Nagin.
It could listen to what David's -- David's leaving out is a portion of his hand written confession was there Herman explains that in August of 2011 just six months before the shooting.
His neighbor who had an infant son there were subjected to our home invaded a home invasion robbers and the only reason why they didn't attack them continuously is because cops came.
This was in his mouth doesn't mean George fed doesn't -- are adding -- defended him.
On camera we're counting the entire evening in question gentlemen thank you both for your leaders take on things right back.