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Senator excuse sir thank you -- -- -- be -- -- yesterday the -- Supreme Court struck on the Arizona law with the exception of one provision and -- eight justices were in agreement with that one provision which allowed for Arizona to.
To stop -- -- reasonable suspicion to inquire about immigration status right after that President Obama rescinded through ice.
A section 287 G only -- -- on -- first saw what has to be seventy.
Section 287 G is part of the federal law -- allows the federal government to cooperate with local law enforcement agencies.
In the apprehension detention and prosecution of criminal aliens it starts with identifying the individual as not being in the country lawfully.
And then you work with the local law enforcement prosecute him for whatever crime they maybe accused so if you stop somebody determined that the purses here unlawfully in the United States he would make contact ice they would come out pick up the person if -- had this agreement.
Yes although it with that agreement you can actually bring the person down to the county jail and put them in the county jail without turning them over -- rice first I believe.
And secondly with access to the national database.
You can actually pin that database yourself the local law enforcement agency can and find out what the legal status for illegal status of the individual lives.
What they've now said is that they're not going to allow errors on access to that database.
So it becomes -- what -- cancel the -- 287 G program with respect to -- Obama.
Now -- three members of congress from the Arizona delegation have written a letter to the head of ice time -- and they have said that the rescinding -- Arizona.
Is purely retaliatory.
I think it is and you you combine that with a couple of other things they've done and it it's it's pretty clear.
They've said that they're gonna open -- hotline at the Department of Justice so that anybody that has a complaint.
About being stopped by a Phoenix police officer for example.
Should immediately call this hotline and let them know that.
Maybe they were mistreated by the Phoenix police department you know that's a real slap in the face at local Arizona law enforcement which were all very proud -- And the Supreme Court has -- -- -- the law is constitutional and it was the most important part of that SB 1070.
It's constitutional why wouldn't the Obama administration.
Except that on its face and say okay we didn't think it was but at the court says it is.
We'll abide by that and will continue to work with Arizona officials to apprehend and prosecute illegal immigrants who deserve prosecution.
Instead they're making it much more difficult partners on and on to do its job.
And I know this is breaking breaking news that means the federal government is not going to do its job and enforcing immigration laws is just within the president's authority.
I don't think it is I mean technically he can decide what parts of the law to enforce and what parts not to.
If he doesn't have enough resources to enforce the law as -- everybody.
That's not what's going on here that's what they say is going on but the reality is they've just decided they don't want to enforce the law.
They've always told us what we said do you need anything more they said no we have all the resources we need then they turn right around and say -- we have to prioritize enforcement.
In other words we should only go after certain ones because we don't have the resources to go after everybody -- If they don't have and ask for -- congress will provide the resource and the reality is.
They're creating an amnesty.
For at least all of the illegal immigrants in Arizona who've been there for a long time and haven't committed any crime not just students were talking about now the time but everybody else.
And I think based upon the way I see the department acting -- ice.
They intend to have the same enforcement with respect to illegal immigrants and other states as well in other words if you haven't committed serious crimes.
And you've been here while you didn't just cross the border yesterday we're gonna turn their back and ignoring the market prosecutors they're not -- to fortune you don't like it you can do this.
Well there are some things first of all we could change the law and and specifically dictate that they work with local.
Instead of making an optional two to require that they work with local law enforcement officials -- we can do that.
We could deny them appropriation.
Funding.
You know this ice stands for immigration and customs enforcement.
And the question is that word enforcement there that's what we need to get them to do to uphold their job of enforcing the laws the congress passes.
Isn't me it's it seems in -- 11 interpretation this that this is the president having a little bit of a stand not a little bit but a standoff with Arizona certainly governor brewer.
As at a standoff with him -- infamous picture where she's got her finger in his chest on the tarmac.
And it -- standoff with Arizona but also -- -- -- -- Supreme Court to say unanimously voted to support it and than an hour later.
Any image is this have an exercise.
Of -- by the present knowledge about one.
Well sure it's also very political and I think if you look at justice scalia's dissent.
He base that partially on the fact that it didn't appear that the federal government was in force in the law or maybe even wanted to enforce the law well this is confirmation of the fact.
Maybe now it ought to go back to his colleagues on -- -- -- This is what I was talking about they have no intention of enforcing the law that congress passed.
That's why Arizona is and find and let us help you how we -- that's legitimate exercise of what he thinks it's good judgment verses purely political.
Well as I said we have offered time and time again additional resources if they need them to carry out the law that congress has passed.
They always say a day secretary Apollo tunnel has personally told me on the -- specific -- we have everything we need.
We're securing the border we have what we need.
They haven't asked for anything more now they can't have it both ways either they don't have everything they need -- their for the have to prioritize.
And only prosecute the most violent criminals and let everybody else go.
And not deport all of the only legal immigrants were here that -- in the contact.
Or they need to ask for more resources because they don't have enough resources one we were the other.
In 2007 there was an effort to -- -- comprehensive.
-- immigration reform.
It fell apart from the very sort of blistering speech that senator.
Lindsey Graham gave on the senate floor about President Obama he was essentially at least at that -- -- holding him up -- been.
Well one of the key reasons why the conference -- immigration reform bill -- seven failed.
Do you agree that he was instrumental in the failures has -- -- politics.
Well he was not known and -- -- he very definitely was involved in the defeat of the legislation he wasn't the only one.
But I don't think that's what's -- -- program Hussein.
It started out with -- -- amendment strongly supported by then senator Barack Obama and some other Democrats primarily in support of labor unions who didn't like the guest worker provisions that Senator Kennedy.
And Senator McCain and I and senator Graham and others had worked out.
And because that was deemed a -- until they won the amendment.
And that was -- to poison pill because I've made the rest of that pretty unworkable but Senator Kennedy had told me.
Personally.
I will get that fixed and conference please don't withdraw your support just because they passed this poison pill I took him at his word I believe he.
Would have kept his word as we ever pass the legislation.
So we kept on going but by then it was too late support for fell apart and that was the end of -- 2007 comprehension and comprehensive reform.
My last.
Questions president Johnson he's -- fair and comprehensive immigration forms and Republicans -- -- -- it.
What they want to -- like starting right now and do it and no one's out campaigning but.
Every single day this issue gets -- -- decided and we hear about it for years and advocates was up one -- -- religious or stay in town and actually work handsome and well.
-- -- I'm all for different something like that -- you heard what I just said when it came down to us the specifics.
The unions were very much against the guest worker provisions senator.
Then Senator Obama was certainly supporting unions he said noted that unless you have a guest worker provision this becomes very unworkable.
And sort boils down to what kind of comprehensive immigration reform -- Talking between not mean I don't think eating out of them actually nothing well I wouldn't say nobody is senator rubio and Hutchison Rhine and and McCain.
Have worked up an alternative to what the president has done.
We quality achieve -- instead of just saying we won't.
A -- you -- deport you if you're a student at -- graduated from high school.
Will actually give you a legal status of -- you don't have to worry about it you will have a student or work visa and I think people would much prefer to have that in just but living in fear that maybe the next president will change his mind or vice will decide to start deporting people.
What we have today is not good and we do need a longer term solution.
And up to the last word I apologize to -- every -- -- -- -- whatever is that was wrong have I apologize that update the last record seems like an.
And my basic like that but that was rod thank you certain that --
