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Democrats giving the Supreme Court 8 -- morning and is it proper just days after the High Court heard arguments in the health care case critics accuse President Obama of trying to intimidate the justices.
You may remember the present say it would be an unprecedented and extraordinary step for the court to overturn a law passed by congress.
And now are Democrats issuing a new warning here's what house Democratic Caucus vice chair how -- -- Sarah said today.
We'll find out if this week if the Supreme Court is listening to the American people following the US constitution.
Or it's coming becoming more more what we've seen in the past -- partisan body no different from the congress.
Synergy and didn't -- just kidding me Sarah and regret president -- was dead wrong on the law the S Supreme Court has the authority to to overturn -- -- about a 150 years old Marbury vs Madison's a dead run -- that law.
-- the Democrats have weather sending a shot across the -- of the court warning them.
I think you'd be a big mistake to come out in and bash the court irrespective of how this comes out.
And I think that that could certainly backfire on them.
It seems really is -- -- 169 acts of congress as you noted that have been overturned by.
-- -- course one is most recently is is 2008.
And that had to deal with behaviors corpus rights of detainees at Guantanamo of course at that time.
How vice president I'm Biden was senator he came out praise that decisions -- I I think that you know if if the court and irrespective out of court rules will be respectful.
Of the court.
I certainly hope that they ruled overturn the mandate and hopefully other elements of of the of the law but if they don't.
You know we disappointed but we'll respect that decision.
Does that mean that if the Supreme Court says that the individual mandates are constitutional that day you can sort of step back couldn't take a deep breath and say to yourself yes their constitutional.
Well there's always still -- question I mean obviously that this thing was.
Do the reason we're at the Supreme Court is because there was a lot of fun conflicting opinions coming -- -- district courts -- appellate courts.
And so there is a question about the constitution -- clearly and that the supreme court's gonna -- you know put the final stamp on that one where the other tomorrow.
The one thing that we do know is irrespective of whether they decide it's constitutional or not.
In that doesn't mean that it's good policy we will continue to argue that it's bad policy the American people have rejected.
-- Obama care is something that is driving up health care costs -- bringing them down it's.
Causing -- job losses across this country because of the higher -- it imposes upon small businesses -- new taxes.
The mandates and so we're gonna have a clearly a debate about that one where the other going into this fall.
Did the Republicans in the senate I not a majority but the public business senate have a plan in the event that it's -- -- -- -- of them regardless of whether this says survives tomorrow or does not.
Health care remains a huge concern of Americans if it's thrown out tomorrow do you have a plan of what you would like to see done with health care that you think would be good for America.
Well we do and and -- during the course of that debate wanted to get some of our ideas and the mix but of course at the time the president have the votes and they did they rammed through.
They didn't need Republicans.
Didn't attempt to recruit Republicans are incorporate.
But the idea is that we brought to the table but the one thing that we will do differently is most of the American people approaches and more thoughtful way.
And not come over the 2700 page.
You know solution -- this that creates a huge two and a half trillion dollar expansion of the federal government many of the issues -- -- That pertain to health care in this country that concern most Americans can be solved short of a two and a half trillion dollar.
You know behemoth program like what the Democrats the president came up with -- You know I'm not many but some is not part of this debate -- now I -- -- sort of worth discussing about the health care law's effective twice and I pages of this health care law.
And the people who voted for -- we voted for you you know our vote against whoever it then goes out to HHS to people who we don't know.
Whose names we never guess who we never voted for who -- create the rules for implementation which is really sort of thing got some bit of how it affects us.
And so it's really actually the health care -- is actually in -- written by HHS.
Well right am I right no you are -- And that's the thing there's a lot -- gets lost in translation between what congress passes the legislative intent and sometimes what is implemented by.
The bureaucrats in the various agencies and that's certainly the case with this on and we've seen thousands and thousands and thousands of pages of regulations already.
To to try and implement this.
But that's when you run into when you pass a 2700 page solution.
That dramatically grows the size of government.
And gets away from what we've been doing with regard to health care in this country for a long time and that's trying to keep at least some level of choice in competition.
We believe there is a way that you can approach this that's commonsensical that uses a step by step approach.
Implements reforms that will lower the cost for people in this country rather increasing it which is what we're seeing and which -- which is what many of us predicted.
When this particular bill passed.
I think went -- was a lot of other Americans as well finally some -- -- to speak and not knowing the fact that this the rules being written by people whose names we don't know.
Who who haven't voted for but of the 2700 pages is the idea that something so mind you -- -- for the American people as their health.
And people voted yes or no heavy enough about it.
And you know and frankly I've tried to read it if you really do sit down and -- -- it is -- comprehensive hit it truly has felt.
I've tried to do it too and I'm no lawyer like you are.
You probably used to reading that kind of stuff but but yeah I do is come incomprehensible to move into the tube I think most Americans -- Everybody we're seeing what I I I would love to challenge a member of Carson tell -- these different provisions -- never actually read them and you can read from one page to an accident really doesn't make any sense.
It doesn't and it's completely in maybe if in the context of a thousand pages or something it makes sense but.
If you try to sort through that and grind your way through it -- it's incredibly frustrating and that's why I think most Americans said.
We want health care facts we do have challenges that we need to face and health care but there is a much better way.
What this is serious -- mean there's no question it's a serious problem and it's a huge -- American people.
And I'd like to -- to understand the bill.
Right well and I think that most Americans -- understand the bill that's why I think going back and going about this an entirely different way is so important.
I think listening to Americans have been listening to health care providers and and in being thoughtful responsible and doing this a step by step way that.
It implements common sense reforms that.
People this country can really understand I think handing handing the reins of this thing and handing this amazing in this incredible amount of power.
To bureaucrats in various agencies -- Washington DC I think is what most Americans found most offensive.
What -- one of the members of the court hearing arguments have what do -- we do read 2700 pages right.
And in the that's the dirty little -- is that nobody's reading it right and nobody wants to -- US -- -- find out tomorrow we -- find out tomorrow what has come.
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