What's at stake with the healthcare reform?
Bob Rice, Sally Kohn, and Penny Lee discuss if it will damage Obama if it is turned over
- Duration 8:34
- Date Jun 28, 2012
Bob Rice, Sally Kohn, and Penny Lee discuss if it will damage Obama if it is turned over
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Any -- The the Supreme Court decision tomorrow on the health cat.
If it is all thrown out obviously we're talking purely hypotheticals here.
And if the whole law is thrown -- declared unconstitutional by the sprinkle.
How damaging or otherwise is that president -- because some might say I hear on the -- thirty spinning it as it might hoping the worst possible thing that could happen.
It it will be damaging in there will be some damage in some consequence of falling out all from making this was his largest signature.
Piece of legislation that he got through Darian -- ten -- so far in so to have that thrown out by the supreme quarters that is unconstitutional obviously would have some.
Repercussions to it however.
There is a political less atmosphere that -- that is that occurs on these things and -- that I think is what people are speaking to is actually in some respects.
He wouldn't be in bowled into him with his supporters out there especially in the base that might be a little bit disenfranchised right now word.
You know described to -- making weight.
That they will actually see this now as the true choice election that the president is asking for this to be an added there is a clear delineation now.
This is the proposals in which he wanted to say 32 million people still will be without health insurance he -- just -- bold leadership and put forth a plan.
Mitt Romney on the other hand.
Ducks and dodges -- against his own health care plan in just has -- grandiose.
Platitudes this is -- that says you know I'm just gonna fix it I'm -- reform with no.
Details -- whatsoever so.
I think there's no question that there will be some fallout from -- if -- reverses the whole thing but it also can be politically galvanizing involved.
Sure there -- going to be negative consequences of president but it's like it's like anything else to really does depend on how the teams react to a break in -- in a in a sporting event you know it.
It's not just the event itself it's how everybody reacts now it and it also depends emphasis who with the court does because if you wind -- in a situation where.
Which I think is likely if the mandate falls.
If you like wind up in a situation where.
All of a sudden have the preexisting conditions are again a good reason to deny people coverage right whale whole oh wait a minute.
And what about the doughnut hole that guy got killed in terms of elder medical benefit tournament we like that provision.
So all of a sudden you're gonna see something to people -- already gotten accustomed to -- week.
Get knocked down and that was because -- what was that again so I I think that they -- all -- Well there are reports of this bill that.
Are very controversial of the other parts of nearly everybody likes to write and read what the Obama administration will do I believe is if if it struck down which are -- don't think it will be on the -- really -- my money's on the of -- on the table here so apostolic.
It's not easy for Mitt Romney -- whichever way this goes -- it governor Romney hate it puts him at a difficult position.
You know let's let's say that it is -- yeah I think the Obama campaign.
Forget -- -- political legislative -- the Obama campaign and the sort of left around at Wright has to tactical.
So one is I think you will see the base become galvanized in particular become galvanized around.
A more bold solution to our health care problems that the people in the beginning who weren't listened to by Obama who won -- single Payer Medicare for all in the first place and I'm gonna say look.
You did the Republican solution here they didn't like it anyway.
Now what's really fix the solution well let's really -- from -- the bold solution and and show the choices to America so they'll becoming emboldened.
And I also think the Obama administration have an interest in case to make to independents.
The further draw -- case says look these Republicans aren't just.
You know putting forward different solutions that actively just against anything.
We went with -- health care program the central Tenet of which was a Republican idea that conservatives came up with and liked when it was their idea.
Obama and braces it in his health care proposal tries to reach across the island also Republicans now we hate that right and still about it and bring to the Supreme Court.
I think it starts to really put them in a difficult box to say to that they've really become the party of not just doing nothing but actively trying to destroy -- change in America.
One and another of our viewers weighing in him Melissa -- couldn't I hope I pronounced that correctly Melissa.
I agree on health Kenny -- will hold up by whom the government why is our government deciding what everyone should.
Happened shouldn't -- shouldn't have I'm tired of the total government control health -- gas.
Com bailouts windows they said that isn't -- that's been expressed by a lot of people penny.
Probably gets to the -- all of some of the objections at least on the on the right to this is that a -- point that -- -- -- too much government interference in is something like health -- Well it's as ironic mean it's her manager -- -- back -- our attorneys and when somebody you know when they were arguing about this in and the town hall persisted.
I want government out of my Medicare.
And did truth of the matter is the people that benefited his greatly off from the health care they Affordable Care Act work private insurers.
Insurance companies so it is a public private.
And joint venture that that we have here all we did not go with a full run government plan which would.
Many on the left -- which was with Sally was referring to the Medicare for all the singer Payer type of system.
So it is one in which tries to strike a balance both with the -- private companies being involved with his -- on the insurance side.
But also the governor may -- government making sure that we have.
Necessary coverage that there are certain things that can be denied that -- can EXP and your coverage for people under -- thing when you're 26.
So there's it is a -- different types of policies just -- to simply simply say.
It's all -- government run program ran a mock is just not it's just not accurate.
Unless -- percent of Medicare remains exceptionally popular.
Exceptionally popular people like -- It works that's why they say get government out of my -- -- think like just like there are a lot of things that our government does well there are a lot of things government doesn't do -- -- lead into the private sector.
But you know the sort of blanket again this sort of extremist blanket viewpoint.
Actually doesn't bear out in reality the health care system we had run by the private insurance market wasn't working.
88% of Americans agree with that something had to be done and you know these trust company wasn't voluntarily -- -- that's why we have government.
To do things that help us all when they are otherwise gonna happen.
Bob -- Sierra writes in his thing if if we were just glad to buy insurance across state lines that would lower the cost themselves not would be part of the solution truth yes.
To -- thank you very much all right moving on removing -- -- look at -- they're there and saw there are what's what's interesting is that one the pro industry.
Laws that the government has put in place to protect the industry have in fact cause a lot of the problems here -- he is exactly correct about that.
There are many other examples generally speaking it's almost impossible to bring -- antitrust case.
Against these companies even though there are in fact -- acting in collusion so it's kind of a weird thing I almost think that if you if you were to go to a complete free market solution.
You -- you might have a chance of cracking of the the the terrible.
And we -- insurance companies hold the American health care system now you can almost go left or right from my point of view which you can't do -- -- still all right I gotta wrap it up here -- given us his prediction for tomorrow do you think that -- -- little stands.
-- -- You know what that propensity lately of the Supreme Court to vote in these narrow 54 decisions -- along sharply partisan lines doesn't make me optimistic.
All right that's a good enough ponson if slightly -- well you have to say is what's -- a period of time and and I think that despite the fact -- you know.
The Bloomberg television's cold night when he won constitutional law scholar nineteen of them said the individual mandate is constitutional right but I think this is a partisan court they're gonna roll it's not.
-- This is what I do know is that I have no -- idea.
You know it I.
I can be tornado when I honestly do not know how they're gonna -- and cement it was Sally and others have said.
That you know -- it is a very conservative court that we have right now.
And I would stated David Lean towards dismantling the mandate -- but.
Because of the questions of Scully on the on the -- ability or the lack of them wanting to go on the severed ability side I I think they actual -- it.
All right we shall see tomorrow.
10 AM Shannon -- of the supremes will guide us through it.
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