Democrats insist Obamacare mandate is not a tax
Will health care reform go under the knife?
- Duration 4:58
- Date Jul 2, 2012
Will health care reform go under the knife?
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Democrats taking to the airwaves this weekend to defend their health care mandate trying to debunk.
The Supreme Court ruling calling it -- -- meantime Republicans are moving quickly to try and repeal the bill.
First up we -- -- to get rid of what's there.
This job killing a proposal that has all of these cuts to existing health care providers.
We needed to go step botched up.
To replace it -- more modest reforms that will not be a 2700.
Page Republican alternative.
So the bill so unpopular why -- Democrats still defending net.
-- -- democratic congressman John garment from Kentucky's she's the only member says he's federal leadership to vote yes back in 2010 very brave of you congressman.
That's not really I think it was the right thing to do for the American people and particularly from my constituents so I'm very comfortable with the vote.
And -- you still feel that way today even though it's been deemed by the Supreme Court as a tax -- middle class Americans.
Well actually that's not exactly what the Supreme Court said the Supreme Court said that for constitutional.
-- constitutionality purposes.
The shared responsibility payment could be justified under the taxing authority in another section of the same decision.
It said that same payment was not attacks when considered as to an issue that -- win that law can be challenged so one section it said it was attacks in other words when it's is that it wasn't attacks and you know another section it said it could be justified under the tax like authority.
I don't think the American people think something that affects one to 2% of the of the population that's not what they consider attacks.
Congressman the Supreme Court didn't affect call it unconstitutional.
-- -- at affordable care law.
If it were considered the under the commerce clause so they said.
If you move -- -- and commerce clause and call it attacks its constitution so.
How in the world can you not call it detects it sounds like -- -- quacks like a tax to backs.
Well if you if you don't pay your taxes are you under pay your taxes you -- Buhner hit with a penalty.
That penalty is not a -- it's a penalty and but that's just about under the taxing authority as well.
I mean that the semantics are kind of irrelevant the fact is this is going to be they'd have enough knowledge on how legendary -- No I would disagree with you wholeheartedly I think look I think -- Americans are exactly what got this care this law passed.
The semantics calling attacks not not a commerce clause mandates.
Well -- I mean that the decisions clear is that you can justify.
The shared responsibility payment and under the taxing authority the law the decision never called it attacks.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- And let's be honest congressman of this would've never pass and if members of congress would have called -- -- back in 2010 but here's my question for you.
Of course you remember the fury of the American people who went all those town hall meetings.
Back when health care was originally being debated and -- was before the midterm elections.
Is isn't great thing now.
For Democrats moving into the presidential election do you do you suppose we're gonna have a bunch of town hall meetings again to explain whether or not to tax.
No I'm sure what you're going to see though is is tens of millions of dollars trying to misrepresent what's in the law and you know I heard my colleague and and my senator Mitch McConnell talking about.
A 2700 page law I'm sure he hasn't read it and hope that during the discussions that go on for the next few months.
People do get a chance to read the law particularly the opponents -- -- they won't continue to mislead their constituent.
Would've been nice if members of congress actually read it before they voted and also -- -- a lot of us did a lot of us did we were astounded that -- the misrepresentations.
Coming from those who hadn't read it.
Are kicking our points on the outs that you talk about reading a lot in the law aside from the whose mandate to penalty attacks whatever you -- -- call it aside from that.
In the law there's some 675.
Billion dollars of new.
Taxes there -- no question about what what they're called those are taxes.
Did have you read the law have you seen the 21 new taxes that are that are in the law.
There are a lot of ties of the primary tax that was increased was extending the Medicare tax to.
Income that was previously untaxed such as dividend income capital gains.
And and -- like -- other unearned income for people making over 250000 dollars that's the lion's share.
The -- new taxing authority under the under the Affordable Care Act.
But you wouldn't tell you didn't have -- blood he would admit those are new taxes though.
They are yet there increase taxes yes you can absolutely enough fair enough I.
We'll have to see because you're pulling out -- falling.
Falling not on middle class America those are only on people making over two and -- -- and I -- at a time that a lot of taxes do like health savings accounts and things like that that are gonna go away.
Under this new law we got to wrap it up there that congressman John -- with a Democrat I'm -- -- thanks so much.