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Welcome back -- Hannity.
Pencil lead isn't shy when it comes to talking about his thoughts on politics and what role government should have in our daily lives.
His book could not know is now out in paperback recently Sean sat down with Gillette and -- -- thoughts on the presidential race and much more.
The one and only Penn Jillette -- feel good seeing it very well good to see right so let's clear on this program this may be a crazy exercise that I'm I'm -- trying to go okay here today I.
You're on the program -- so we notable for the election after you -- that big fame infamous now rant I'm good.
-- almost Obama with a marijuana and I served up probably Gary Johnson portable comes I think you do know that Gary Johnson is zero chance of winning.
Tried to explain to you that if you always vote for the lesser of two weevils in game theory things just keep getting more evil.
The thing that the -- the -- -- perpetuated is that we have to have a two party system.
Have all we have to do as a matter of fact of all the people who don't vote.
I don't vote for third party candidates aren't satisfied.
Just decide to vote for more freedom that will change only if do you -- I don't buy into your promise to move forward everything is and is predicated on these and the lesser of two -- I think is a very he had two very different.
Very distinct candidates -- two very distinct vision was not some of the country.
Not not -- all I care about how neither one of them wants to seriously shrink the government.
The difference is.
I haven't got a problem with who's in power I have a problem with the power itself.
The president has too much power right now I agree with you having wars that are on declared.
Even if we always undeclared we have we haven't declared any of the wars -- amendment since what.
Korea I don't know what if you if you read your constitution doesn't say -- to use an exact words right congress authorized the use of force they did that is indeed -- -- -- you have to say we declare war the polarization of course president.
Making all these moves the president should be much more of a figure out.
And congress has been so frightened to take -- power about coequal branch of the government Bellamy got the executive writing and I think executive branch is -- too powerful I agree that kind of enough for the same reason even if Romney -- the best president possible even if everything he did were perfect.
You're still -- can go into this expansion.
-- -- presidential power which is gone -- with Clinton bush and Obama are doing more and more to take care of us and I think we should consider ourselves adults.
I think we should consider trust the citizens United States take care of themselves.
Like what you're saying that people should be responsible.
I don't -- -- things -- -- -- -- it's okay I agree with that I agree with that this -- but.
If -- if that option and the choice is to repeal obamacare the nanny state then you would agree.
-- I want that.
-- -- -- I -- and Romney says that he is gonna get rid of the bureaucracy in a lot of ways but.
He went -- -- -- back -- -- I'm -- veteran and about the good old act regulation.
He's gonna reduce spending he's got -- -- or whining get on about plan to balance the budget.
Brian has already produced a plan to deal with entitlement spending and -- the third rail of politics.
I don't know if it's going to be perfect but it will be infinitely better than the one point five trillion and that we get every year.
You you really think he would make the government smaller but wouldn't just be a different person in the same amount of -- -- doesn't you'll ruin the bit the best opportunity we have to save the country from becoming Greece right but if we decided.
That we want someone to actually gives people more freedom I believe the -- Obama.
And Romney think they know what's best for the people and I believe that's Steve's that you -- They're pure heart and I'm not sitting you're the exception to the rule here you're libertarian that is not arguing to legalize drugs because you wanna use drugs yeah -- -- -- never tried marijuana never -- -- -- had a -- no no we've never had a cigarette that you smoked but -- You thought everything -- -- -- a cigarette OK but you never completely helpless.
Russert could never smoked a cigar -- never -- but you're the exception to the rule for libertarians must -- and you know that right I do all that but I also do not hold that.
The most important thing is for the government to allow more freedom.
That I want for myself morality has to be a -- set -- the most important thing.
Is that people in this country feel like they are living legally.
You should not have there's nobody in this country right now but can say with complete confidence they -- doing nothing illegal.
We have too many laws -- feet.
That's exactly what and what you need to do is if you are a good person -- -- have no fear of the government -- comes back to the Al Capone thing that we -- we carcinoma and income tax division you don't wanna feel good about that you don't wanna feel that the government can bust anybody on anything they -- I didn't -- be able to do good things how much smaller lost -- you know march so I'm when he used to be twelve years old should be able to understand.
Everything that's illegal everything that's not there shouldn't be this huge -- I'll -- I -- Illegal things you can do someone who was a good person should have no fear -- the government whatsoever all right well that's -- losses that may I.
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