Jose Baez: A lot of questions will never be answered
Did ex-attorney for Casey Anthony believe her story?
- Duration 11:39
- Date Jul 5, 2012
Did ex-attorney for Casey Anthony believe her story?
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Camera those pictures it was a verdict that clearly stunned the nation and it happened one year ago today.
In that courtroom there's a moment who can forget that acquitted of murdering her two year old daughter Caylee.
Anthony has been basically in hiding since she was released from jail last summer.
She is now serving probation for check fraud at a secret location in Florida.
But while Anthony keeps a low profile.
Her former defense attorney Jose Baez who became well -- From this trial is speaking out and -- is an interview that you'll only see here.
By -- spoke with Greta Van Susteren about his new book presumed guilty and then murder case that gripped the country.
Your job -- not to decide guilt or innocence your job is to effectively you represent a client com and but.
I'm curious did you did you I didn't believer that I simply the story -- kidnapping Dylan did you believer.
You are you referring to early on or event and I didn't know what that wettest weather she's written whether she was dealing directly responsible for the death Georgetown I never believed that went to -- -- the denials.
Well you know what she told me what happened.
Because of the prior -- I wasn't so quick to jump on board.
So what I what I made the determination at that point in time is look I'm dealing or my right now I have got the client of the boy who cried wolf.
And I've got to if I'm -- to.
Either put her on the stand or go in this direction has.
For her defense I'm gonna have to corroborated and I literally made the decision.
This is a situation where if I can't corroborate what she's saying.
And -- it's useless to me.
Because they -- it won't stand up against cross examination so you don't really get into that you you know you are still had that bad defense lawyer hat on and I've always had it on.
So you don't get it's that situation where your believing or not believing it's really about.
Doesn't matter what I believe it only matters -- -- -- proof.
When she told me what had -- happen on June 16.
I went back all the way to the very beginning and I said okay here's what I'm gonna do I'm gonna try and -- prove what she's telling me.
And if I can do that that's certainly you -- -- -- have to have another talk with her we're gonna have to get get a little bit closer to where where we are with the truth.
And and what I was noticing is I couldn't disprove it.
I couldn't disprove what she was telling me happen on June 16 and in fact the things that she was telling me I was actually proving.
Half for example.
You know what I went back and read Cindy statement that on June 16 she came home and found.
The latter of the pool up and then on the seventeenth she went to work and told -- coworkers about it.
You know the issue was -- statements that it would read like George Anthony Singh met.
Caylee would wake him up at 7 in the morning say Joseph Joseph swim -- swim.
And and then looking back we did a timeline of every single day.
She was in the pool over the summer and it turned out that entire week she was in the pool every single day.
Coupled that with -- evidence that she -- the pool.
And then there was an incident -- Tony Lazaro where she almost ran into the pool while he was -- was she was at his house.
That it it all started to come together.
And then the phone records.
And the computer records just solidified it for us where we said -- OK we have a defense here.
And there right now there is it.
It's impossible to -- And and quite frankly you I had I think that the reason it's impossible sort of but -- because.
It's the truth.
-- George took them around and told them.
They asked that we had lived any plants -- done any digging in the back yard and -- -- to cast as a matter of fact within.
Couple weeks prior we had lived a huge.
-- this this thing that we had here.
-- would place it over there and the reason for that is because and we haven't moved us back yet.
Is because all last year we had -- stacked box here -- Haley.
Now -- and we don't want her climbing where she can get the whole sense of let's put it against the house.
CEO Ivan in the backyard events that -- -- home.
I'm number of times and I know your job is not to sort of seek out the truth -- your -- -- very different which most people don't understand but it's you know you're.
Here -- your job is to challenge the State's case effectively.
Menus and -- -- don't take position whether clients are guilty or not.
But I thought I actually found her story so implausible.
For a number -- reasons is that.
Is that somehow if if something happened in that pool that was an accident.
Is that somehow that child got from from that pool where the child died according to that theory.
To about five blocks away to that wooded area where the remains were found somebody did that.
And you couple that her fact that it's the fact that -- Casey made that bizarre stuff provides an -- and going out partying and time again tattoos and all that so.
What do you know how did the baby get from the pool that's how she died.
To the five blocks away woods.
You know there's a lot of questions.
That we'll never be answered.
I want to know what happened to that duct tape after George.
But use it -- the command center I wanna know why.
He didn't tell law enforcement.
That for the last twenty years they had buried their pets these same exact way.
That Caylee was found.
I wanna know.
Look a little bit more about the car.
Why did he show up to pick up the car at the tow yard with with a gas can.
How did he know the car was out of gas why did he tell.
Simon -- that the car had been there for three years I mean I'm sorry three days.
How did -- know that if if you didn't know that if you thought the car was in Jacksonville.
So there's there's lots of questions that will never be answered.
Part of that has to do with the way the -- the case was investigated.
Another part of that will be is because people just start talking.
You mean I live noting that the case and others there was lot of and you know a lot that went on about George.
I'm based -- what you just said I used suspicious that George.
Move that child of the Georgia as much more intimately involved of that child's death.
Well there are a lot of unanswered questions.
Wondering what I suspicious.
Well but you know I think I think that the the the questions are clearly suspicious.
But you know I wasn't there and I'm not the type of person that judges people were makes conclusions of speculates.
So you know I I rely on the evidence that's that's kind.
Not only is it what I do it as a lawyers what I believe is the right thing to do so.
I don't take those leaps of faith.
Well all I will say that there is that there are a lot of unanswered questions from what I ended up doing with the book is.
I wrote out what exactly what -- the pieces of evidence that to -- in a certain direction what I thought about it and what I thought about the evidence that.
Exonerated -- as well -- the ones that were incriminating against Casey so.
That is that that's the of valuation and and the analysis that I took in the case.
I'm Chris did she ever -- give you her theory.
As to how the child ended up over in the what's -- I'm I'm assuming.
That she did that she denied having anything do with removing the child but what was -- -- -- -- -- the child gets from the pool.
Assuming that saw the child died to the field about five blocks -- the woods.
Well what her statements were both two myself into the psychiatrist.
After she she says she she broke down and cried for awhile.
She was in the fetal position went into -- room and her father told her she said her father told her that he would take care of it and that was the last that she -- me.
Looking around -- can just see.
Com how dense it is and how much stuff and -- but that it certainly is notable that in addition to being very dense.
Full of trash is in very close proximity to the home.
George and Cindy where Casey lived with her daughter.
Caylee so her so she actually saw the drowning at the home the body dead at the hallways every -- Yes.
And that the father and OK now I'm did not -- that George was the one who moved it to the wooded area.
She said that her father told her she would take he would take care of it that's what it does exactly what she -- And did -- ever -- -- approximately an hour later when he went to work.
He called her and told her I took care of everything.
And we looked.
And saw that she had that there was an actual phone call at that time her phone records reflected it.
And it matched exactly what she was telling me and what what's interest in to wish you have access at the time to the phone records so.
You know -- we're talking about something that that she said.
I want to say about.
Several months later -- remember a phone call exactly at that time was.
Was pretty remarkable and convincing to me.
So she actually saw the dead child at the -- did she discover the child correct.
She's -- George had discovered the child.
Is there a reason why didn't call an ambulance and why there was an effort to -- -- get rid of the child and in them in the woods.
You know that that's -- that's another one of those questions that'll never be answered.
You know in my opening statements what I said was.
This is a very common accident that happened to a very uncommon.
Group of people but what makes this -- -- -- What makes it unique.
What makes the reason we're all sitting here today.
Not have a commonality.
But the uniqueness.
Of the family -- I -- I think if you look at the these facts and circumstances surrounding this case.
And and you looked at all of the evidence there were a lot of times that we admitted evidence having to do with the family dynamics.
And and and the strange behavior within the family like for example hiding -- the pregnancy for seven and a half months.
That she was pregnant.
You know and then the interactions between.
Lee and and and Cindy and and all of these different.
Stories within the family.
Pretty much painted a picture.
Of I guess a stranger or a different group of people.
I don't know any other ways.
To describe that type of behavior.
Other than you know something's just not right here.
Does not right there very interesting conversation with -- -- as you can see more of that.
But -- interview continues with him tomorrow night so what we're Casey Anthony's first words to him after that verdict was read.
That will also be revealed in part -- that very interesting interview don't -- on the record tomorrow night.