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Can Katie Holmes use Scientology against Tom Cruise?

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    Dr. Keith Ablow on the Tom Cruise-Katie Holmes divorce & how Scientology could sway court decisions

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Since I want to move forward to the story that everybody's been buzzing about the Tom Cruise Katie Holmes divorce.

Doctor -- Al -- joining us live on Skype.

He's a member of our Fox News medical -- team always a pleasure to have TW.

We can kind of you know -- to bring you find out what people are talking about there's been so much about psychiatry verses Scientology's.

In this case as we -- you know keep peeling back more -- about what might be going on.

With the troubled star couple -- tells about your article and and your thoughts on this psychiatry vs Scientology's.

Yeah -- up -- know the health section of foxnews.com.

Right now.

The interesting part -- -- there are lots of interest in dimensions to this Katie Holmes Tom Cruise did debacle here.

But one really interesting one is that she's asked for sole legal custody of her six year old daughter.

Among forensic psychiatrist and in every case in which I've been involved -- one of the -- -- says I should have sole legal -- -- in primary physical custody to.

-- -- Present data to back that up because what they're really saying is.

My husband my wife in this case she's saying about Tom Cruise he can't parent she's saying he can't be relied upon to do.

Reasonable things now generally back that up by bringing a psychiatrist.

Or to an end to say why.

And explain.

It's got.

Happens then what you gonna have.

His psychiatrists.

Commenting on one of the highest ranking members reportedly of Scientology's.

Namely Tom Cruise.

And this historic tremendous hostility from psychology towards psychiatry they considered -- demonic profession.

And if that's the battle that kind of shapes up in the courtroom.

It's going to give -- a lot of insight into the differences in the way that sick how.

How you treat seeks to make people autonomous.

And give them free will and restore them to health.

And the way -- signed apology has ended up trying to do so whether they've -- -- or they have and or made life more difficult for people.

Would be made -- in that courtroom.

Now what happened what happens if let's say a judge says to both parties I need a psychiatric evaluation of both.

And Tom Cruise as people say that goes against his religion.

What it what kind of you know a lot of -- could they come to.

When it comes in the courtroom could they say could they then -- -- not be evaluated by a court ordered psychiatrist could come down -- that.

That's insisting.

It's a great question.

I don't know that the religion -- clues I suppose it might there might preclude one from visit.

Sitting with a psychiatrist.

Of course a lot of their energy is focused on not being medicated by a psychiatrist so I don't know if you would pass Muster.

But let's say it did.

The psychiatrist would -- still be able to testify because he's a witness for Katie Holmes called by Katie Holmes about her husband.

And that individual.

The psychiatrist we have to say my findings are not based on an interview with the defendant he has refused to do so.

-- findings are based on a review of records letters emails.

Instant messages.

Other elements of discovery.

That might be made playing here.

That could form the basis of an opinion even without an interview with the individual who is the subject of that inquiry.

Wow that's that's really interesting I mean this is gonna -- this is really -- heat up I this is it feels like really only the beginning we're hearing a little bit more.

That would Scientology's be enough.

To grant Katie Holmes sole custody could it be enough and -- The all look the only way that -- technology which after all it's a recognized religion people may have feelings about it.

But it's treated by the united -- government as a religion it has adherents in many countries around the world there are millions of people who -- this is my religion.

We don't want to stomp on that.

However.

It it is.

Is the case that for instance if you don't wanna medicate your child or get surgery for your child and you believe that this is wrong medically according to your religion.

There is precedent for the state stepping in saying that's well and good but we're going to override that.

So this concerns the little girl the six year old if it is felt.

That some of the requirements.

Of psychology training as regards children.

Are dangerous to children and that his intention.

Is to compel her or urged her to participate.

That would be a fascinating moment where it could be quote and quote enough but again.

I wanna remind people that the roots of Scientology's were in returning to people -- self possession.

Helping them defeat negative patterns in their lives -- shared some ground with psychiatry.

If it has.

Wandered from those routes into something darker.

That could come out of this trial that's why I think probably psychologists.

The one who run the ones who run the church.

Are not very comfortable right now at this moment because their religion.

Could be on trial along with his divorce proceeding.

Right RA religion on trial -- -- that's something that we're definitely going to be looking for -- I know -- we're going to be.

What -- your expertise as we wade through the waters of this developing story and others.

I don't forget ever want to look for his.

Article as you mentioned under the health tab on foxnews.com.

Doctor -- out wolf always a pleasure I thank you so much for being with us here today thanks -- teaching and thank you I wouldn't take.