Key lawmakers on effort to repeal ObamaCare
Reps. Price, Becerra on 'Fox News Sunday'
- Duration 10:14
- Date Jul 8, 2012
Reps. Price, Becerra on 'Fox News Sunday'
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This week the House of Representatives will vote once again to repeal the Affordable Care Act here to discuss that measure and what can be done about the stalled economy our congressman Tom price the chairman of the Republican policy committee.
And congressman -- but Sarah the vice chair of the house Democratic Caucus gentlemen thanks for joining us -- things got so you've got this repeal vote congressman price coming up on on Wednesday you've been there many times before the outcome not likely to be different.
Why do you feel the need to go back and do this again.
But it's really important question because the status quo -- health care is unacceptable.
As a physician I spent over twenty years taking care patients and I can tell you that the the current system out there doesn't work doesn't work for patients and that doesn't work for doctors.
Of the president's law takes us in the wrong direction it violates all of the principles we hold -- in health care whether it's -- portability or accessibility -- choices are quality.
The Supreme Court has said that its constitutional that doesn't make -- good policy for the country.
So what we believe we need to do is to provide that contrast that positive upbeat contrast the American people to say.
Hey those are the folks that are fighting for us in Washington for patient centered health care which means.
Patients and families and doctors make in medical decisions not Washington.
That contrast is important so that people as they move into the fall.
Recognize that they have a choice here in Washington because the vote won't go anywhere in the senate nothing will change so congressman deserves this more -- -- political show that anything -- that.
That's where we've come -- to the point where we're gonna re litigate.
What we did two years ago that's the point we reached the state of denial where now the three branches of our democracy have spoken and said.
Guess what that affordable care law.
It's not just -- itself and so we should move forward try to help add to the what is it six million Americans who get Medicare we're now paying less for the prescription drugs because we're closing the donut hole.
Talk to the three million Americans were young adults who got to stay on their parents' health insurance as a result of the affordable care law.
All those folks are benefitting we're getting rid of pre existing conditions which it insurance company used to use to discriminate against individuals apply for health insurance.
All that's going what we should be doing is building on that that quite honestly John.
Job -- in congress should be.
Creating more jobs working with a private sector to build an economy.
That will create jobs and we will get -- that the second but congressman -- championed the -- well look look -- the Chief Justice the United States that in hit in his ruling was the court has not expressed any opinion on the wisdom.
Of the Affordable Care Act under the constitution that judgment is reserved to the people.
And the people understand that they don't want Washington running their health care that that there are wonderful ways to solve the challenges that we face whether it's portability or pre existing getting folks covered.
But you don't have to put Washington in charge to do that are all right so you want to repeal the law and -- the you've paid your bill HR 3000 out there for awhile that it has gone anywhere yet but to congressman this terrorist point.
If you start to lose some of those things that people do like.
And this idea preexisting condition I think more than 80% of the population likes that idea what do you replace it with because there is no concrete plan.
Well the that the point about this -- Affordable Care Act is that what pre existing condition will be covered.
Is what Washington says will be covered.
What we believe is that the way that you -- that challenge without putting Washington is in charge is to make it so that several -- -- mechanisms around the country.
So that individuals who are in the individual and small group market those are the only ones that are challenged by the -- that -- in the ability to buy health insurance across state lines is very limited.
And and that's why you need positive patient centered reform as I said the status quo is unacceptable.
You need to be able to purchase across state lines you need association health plans be able to pool together to that you get the purchasing power millions -- insurance work the way it's supposed to work.
Not Washington working for.
Health care John.
That's with the affordable care bill that does it lets you pool together and had these exchanges so you could buy insurance exactly what Tom just talked -- you don't have to go back and re -- what we did two years ago.
That's the change that we need -- on top of that.
We're we're busy voting on bills that are going nowhere.
While we have Americans who want to get back to work we can we can fight we can argue we can have these political debate but the court.
The Supreme Court.
The executive branch and now the congressional branch of -- said this law is now let's move forward and build -- targets -- you're saying let's move beyond this now.
We can we -- -- usually tell your colleagues in congress to run on this in the fall to run on this what what the Supreme Court.
Determine was attacks in the fall what we should build on the reforms that we saw an Affordable Care Act because we wanna make sure that every American has the quality health that they want.
But on the penalty it's a penalty not a tax.
Ask Mitt Romney who for six years says it was a penalty case -- Supreme Court clearly said it's -- -- and right in his in your opinion is in his opinion.
The Chief Justice said you know congress wants to call a penalty you can call it anything you want to call -- -- -- you can call it a horse he still attack yesterday and and that supreme court's role and the justices -- is to tell us whether a law that's before it.
Is constitutional and what he says it is and how -- acts as how the justices decide to -- interpret that is that to them but them the bottom line is is it constitutional.
The Supreme Court some of these justices are also saying he said though it's constitutional is if -- -- at some of these justices also said that money.
Is it be the equal to you speeches so -- -- you're wealthy you have more free freedom of speech under the First Amendment than if you're not so wealthy so.
The courts the courts have interpreted that he did for way to look at what point you're expected to take effect -- -- what the point is this.
We should be moving forward why are we going back we're talking about what was already done litigated debated past.
And also affirmed by the Supreme Court we should be talking about jobs you talked about jobs -- -- for segment.
We should be talking about jobs well congresswoman what other -- quick response from congress and president -- again just because constitutional doesn't make it the right policy for the for the land.
And and the American people whether it's a penalty or -- what they know is that they're gonna pay it.
And and and that's the problem people are hesitant younger people are having extreme and -- and that's the as the estimate prior to prior to the -- and it.
-- those Americans who decide to be irresponsible and beat the freeloaders.
You don't -- attack.
No on the -- you -- John and I had to I would tax.
It -- it's not attack -- that you don't pay this.
Unless you are freeloaders you're you don't really want and you'll be penalized if you decide to be a free -- and ask someone else -- -- -- -- definition means that you don't by the insurance the government says you must -- well that's -- your response at about will be covering this all week so we do have a lot of orders in this debate let's let's let's move to jobs the lackluster jobs report 80069000.
The month before.
You know can can President Obama go out there congressman this -- and say this is my record reelect me and -- them.
Anytime you can speak not talk about 28 months of job growth.
Anytime you can talk about creating a job but we're -- without a drop water that's.
84000 Americans went back to work last month John I think that we -- 125000.
Pilots to stay.
Just about -- years ago what happened four years ago in in June 2008 -- -- -- jobs we lost 280000 jobs.
What happened the first month that Barack Obama took office or the last month he wanted to -- that.
George Bush was in office realized.
Jobs so when you -- 84000.
But it sure better than losing 800000 jobs -- 230000.
Jobs we're making progress 28 consecutive months of job growth.
But you got to build on that but if if Republicans would take your foot off the break of the economic recovery we probably could move a lot faster.
Remember John what the president said he surpassed my stimulus bill.
And the the unemployment rate at this point under his proposal would be five point 6% right now we're eight point 2% and it's really a whole lot higher than that -- as you pointed out previously.
The fact is that we're not putting in place the policies that will allow the job creators.
To create jobs.
Keystone Pipeline for example the president has it -- will refuses to allow that this is gonna create twenty to 200000 jobs.
Doesn't cost Washington -- diamond the president won't allow it.
The red tape and oppression that's going on across this country.
To keep small businesses and large businesses from expanding making so that they can't create jobs the tax uncertainty and the tax increases.
Not just in obamacare but in all of the president's policies increased taxes on businesses large and all and make it more difficult.
We have to create -- -- -- just went to one quick statistic.
I know my colleagues on the republic I -- that the health care a lot which now has been affirmed by the -- repeat Supreme Court is a job loser since its passage.
Over 600000 jobs created in that health care industry since the passage of the -- affordable care law and so what we see is that jobs are increasing.
We just have to work together.
To make sure that the -- for every -- you -- -- to throw one other thing out there quickly because this is a big problem is living in front of us -- congress goes back to work next week and that is the fiscal cliff that we're going to hit at the end of the year there's been some suggesting congressman price and you've made it that we.
Sign something kick the can down the road for another -- is that the right way to approach this or should the hard work -- done to solve this now this is why.
This is where the cooperative.
-- nature of Washington needs to exist and we have a huge fiscal challenge.
Over 500 billion dollars in tax increasing taxes at the end of the end of the year.
There are they're all sorts checks that are coming -- you've got marginal rates going up capital gains going up dividends going up.
And and what we need to do is to work and solve those challenges what we will do in the house represented -- Is pass a piece of legislation before the end of July that says we -- keep those rates exactly the same for at least here.
Something the governor Romney supports because he believes that that will stimulate the economy and provide certainty out there in the job market for the slightly over -- let them get what steel corporation John the other side.
Listen for these are bills to nowhere Tom knows it won't become law and what we're doing is saying that were willing to take the time of the of the people this country.
Taxpayers' money to run a House of Representatives.
With so what have you let it expires that they know you worked together to come up with so a real proposal -- pass both houses -- -- signed by the president.
Not just put those up that -- -- going nowhere it's time for us to do something to get done rather than work against you couldn't agree more you know the process that allows that to happen is for the house to act.
And then the senate to act and then you come get together -- and Jose have a chance to pass in both houses not just doing something that's a message -- -- guys we've got to go but thank you so much for coming in -- an excellent leadership.