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Gov. Rick Perry: Texas Will Not Expand Medicaid

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    Gov. Rick Perry said Monday that Texas won't establish an online marketplace for patients to shop for insurance or expand Medicaid, two key elements o...

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That's yeah.

Mueller breaking news on the health care overhaul governor Rick Perry sending a letter today to be -- -- an illustration saying Texas will not implement.

Some key provisions of the health care overhaul they include.

The Medicaid expansion.

And the state exchanges joining us first on fox former.

-- -- -- -- and candidate for president and Texas governor Rick Perry in his first interview since Texas made this decision so governor.

-- Left if anyone had any doubt we wanted to put it clearly to bed that taxes wouldn't it be a part of it.

Expanding.

Socializing of our Madison so we're not gonna participate in.

In any exchanges -- not gonna expand Medicaid.

What is not can be a part of again socializing.

Health care and the state -- Texas and going in direct conflict -- our founding fathers.

Wishes and freedom for that matter people they'd be free to make those decisions about their health care not be forced by this administration into these exchanges.

Are in two bankrupting states with the expansion of Medicaid.

Our -- this a little bit step by step if you don't sat out.

This data exchanges if you decide to do that which he had he had said today that you will not deal.

The federal government says is part of the law they will step then.

And they will do that so -- part of your goal is to keep the federal government out of the lives -- Texans.

Then why give them that power.

Well the bottom line here is that Medicaid.

Is a failed program.

To expand this program is not unlike.

Adding a thousand people to the Titanic.

You're going to further drive this country and -- debt and and that's really what were.

Discussing here is how we gonna get this country back on track.

Economically fiscally sound.

This is not the way to do it you don't expand a program that is not working already.

If the federal government was serious.

About working with the states and finding solutions to the health care and H what they would do is block grant those dollars back to the states.

I can assure you.

That Texas and other states.

Would find more effective efficient ways to deliver health care to their citizens and do it in a way that preserve those -- -- freedom so the federal government says in fact that is sort of what they're trying to do they say they're going to pay -- under percent of Medicaid expansion.

For a few years and then.

When you get past when he -- -- -- They're gonna pay for about 90% of it so.

To -- that seems like a good deal because for every six billion dollars at that Texas government spends between let's say 2014 and when he nineteen somewhere around there.

The federal government can give you seven.

Why isn't that a good deal.

Well I'm I'm always intrigued with the the concept that there's free money out there.

And that we can pour more money into a program that is already.

Failed.

And somehow another we're gonna have a different.

Result than what we had the first time.

Again I want to go back to the federal government.

Was serious about assisting the states of of being a good.

And trusting partner and listen.

We don't know what this these exchanges are going to look like.

The there's still a substantial amount of wording in this legislation that I am pretty sure congress is just now reading for the first time.

And that were being forced to try -- participate in it and it did this would be like.

Let's sell you house.

And the federal government's gonna take care of all of the of the of the contract being on -- if -- just sign here on the dotted line we know the fine -- not.

Finished yet but trust us well we don't trust this administration and we don't trust Washington DC.

To be able to -- deliver health care and our states if they trusted us they would basically.

Block granted back to the states and we would do a substantially better job than what you're going to see with these exchanges and with the expansion of -- K so let's talk about solutions then that acquainted new federal government report and -- you've seen us Texas has ranked last when it comes to health services provided by the state -- know.

I know I your folks had to come out and aggressively said hey you know this is not something that we necessarily agree -- -- reasons but.

The facts are one at a four Texans is without health insurance when at a four Texans is on Medicare or Medicaid health.

The health crisis in big crisis for the country for your state what is the solution.

Well let me address this issue you don't have people come from all over the globe.

To the state of Texas for their health care we have some of the finest health care.

In the world whether it's MD Anderson -- UT southwestern I mean some incredible health care.

Facilities and in this country so the idea that this federal government which doesn't like Texas to begin -- To -- each using come up with some bad and -- somehow Texas has you know the worst health care system.

In the world is just.

Fake and false on its face the real the real issue here is about freedom.

And the state of Texas has decided through the years that we have the best.

Interest of our citizens not the federal government and that if we can make those decisions.

In Austin, Texas and at the local level will best deliver health care for our citizens how and -- the idea that.

What every Texan.

Has health care in this state from the standpoint of being able to have access to health care every Texan has that.

How we pay for it and how we deliver should be our decision.

Not some bureaucrat in Washington DC that may have never been to Texas today in -- -- for that matter in any the other 49 states trying to mandate this one size.

Fits all health care it is not going to work it is a failed system.

Block grant back to the states if you wanna see success.

And effectiveness.

In health care delivery in this country.

Governor when things that you mention that Texas is really a gas and magnet for a lot of folks are you Caylee you're hearing rather -- -- able to hear us -- governor that's go ahead -- Islamic cleric.

It -- -- better that way when we can -- -- each other.

You mentioned that that Texas is really -- -- state for so many reasons we've.