Assessing House vote to repeal ObamaCare
Pros and cons of controversial legislation
- Duration 5:28
- Date Jul 11, 2012
Pros and cons of controversial legislation
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Right now lawmakers in the house are getting ready to vote on repealing president Obama's health care overhaul law.
Just hours from now the Republican majority expected to pass the measure with support from a handful of Democrats.
Any measure they pass is probably dead on arrival in the democratically controlled -- senate but that is not stopping Republicans from arguing.
That the law poses a threat to the economy.
Let's get into a fair and balanced debate would marry Katharine ham she's editor at large of hot -- dot com also Fox News contributor.
Brian Clayton is a democratic campaign consultant who has worked on the campaign trail fourteen years.
Mary Katherine do you first this thing is settled law now the Supreme Court says it's okay.
So why bring it up again Republicans and tried to to repeal it before and it has never succeed.
I yeah I mean this is part of their goal this is the democratic process it was passed but 52 to 53% of the American people consistently since it has been passed.
Are partly for repeal or four entirely having the thing repealed and look -- his not so extreme I'll explain why.
The president himself any democratic house at times have.
Actually been in favor of repealing different parts of the class of even a Affordable Care Act because.
-- class act -- tonight nine revision are out reporting requirements were so onerous and so badly written.
That they had -- beyond bored with -- themselves so it.
This is what happens when you pass a giant -- legislation their parts of that the don't work.
And there are many American people -- are afraid of what's gonna happen Republicans -- have every right to bring this forward in it'll be one of the more.
And actually will be more bipartisan than any vote made.
To pass the thing -- several Democrats get on board so they have.
Ryan yes the Supreme Court said you know it's it's settled law it's -- it's okay for this thing to stand but the Chief Justice who wrote the majority opinion said.
It's not necessarily our job to decide whether this thing is any good or not we just decided.
And that it is legal to uphold it.
-- -- -- -- -- -- Do Republicans really want to go into an election year.
Arguing that they want to bring back preexisting condition so they really want to argue that women should pay more than men for the exact same health care that they really wanna kick off twenty year old.
Off their parents' health insurance in an election year.
I mean these other things that Obama -- fix that's why they passed a law and that's why the Supreme Court upheld as constitutional.
And -- the GOP Republicans -- do some research it's also why they're candidate for president test marketed this law when he was governor of Massachusetts.
All right you.
So Mary Katherine what about it there are some things about this law that people like.
There are some things that people like that I think many people concede that but it's -- you know.
900 billion to trillion dollar bill and you have to answer for whether it's working it hasn't worked -- thus far premiums have gone up people are afraid of losing doctors doctors are saying look if you don't.
Fifteen million more people on Medicaid it's going to be problematic for us because were already not able to treat all the people there so giving people a giant bill with a little card that says the -- helping them to get care does not necessarily mean you're solving people's problems it's -- -- Americans that in -- to get -- thank you well as people's problems Brian people's problems were -- 53% of them wouldn't be for repeal all or part of the -- you have to answer for that.
You can save -- parts are good.
I can also say that the whole thing is a giant boondoggle that cost a trillion dollars and it's not gonna work for people and they should have the right to address that through their elected representatives which is what they're doing with what they did in 2010 -- elected republic.
Perhaps Ryan I'm gonna record -- -- to be -- to be able to see a doctor you know I think it's just that simple I don't know why Republicans are standing against obamacare is a standing on the wrong side of history quite frankly but that was negotiating with 50% of Americans before the law -- And emergency rooms for instance -- were required to see anyone who who showed up at their door it's not like people were being denied all access to health -- just because they didn't have health venture.
I agree but I also think the preventative care is is something that everyone -- have access to you know at most Americans want this -- if your neighbors sick of their kid's sick.
They want to be able to go to a doctor they're hurt -- they're sec I don't know why Republicans that standing in the way of this law that most Americans want most Americans want.
Everyone to be able to go to a doctor to get care when they need it but but as Mary -- I have the polls have been largely against I mean.
Obamacare and and the numbers have been growing of those opposed to it since the thing was -- Well Republicans are standing on the wrong side of history in this instance because many years from now obamacare will still be the law the land.
And millions of people will be free of the oppressive burden of illness injury and disease because of that path of this loss about it's about freedom our freedom from the wants of health -- I was entirely.
Freedom from the threat of that and I'll listen.
When I finally got things -- and rent -- the -- of -- your business Mary Katharine Barrett I thought.
I would like to beef I would like to be free of -- it you know thousands of bureaucrats they're going to add to the health care system to.
Actually right what's.
In a lot right can't tell you what's gonna happen to be millions of people at the CBO has said will lose their employer based health care that they like the president said they were -- -- he can't tell you because bureaucrats are still.
Writing a lot just because you pass a giant law doesn't mean you have succeeded in solving problems the American people see that -- that Democrats in congress and Washington.
Don't understand that but they have the right to address -- 70% -- -- OK I think the best polling numbers on health care are for modest changes not this giant thing that they passed but nobody like Mary Katharine Ham and Ryan Clayton good discussion thank you both.