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As the president.

I'd say it's not the guy who's running to replace them.

And that guy who is running to replace him is Mitt Romney -- you just heard talking yesterday.

-- Grand Junction, Colorado as he was campaigning with a new.

Feisty -- fierce line of attack against the president after a few weeks where Republicans have complained that Romney was not swinging hard enough he came out.

With some tough attacks on President Obama not just.

On what he says the outsourcing of jobs through president Obama's 2009 stimulus package.

By the companies that move -- that.

Located jobs overseas but also president's call for.

Increased tax rate for top earners this is power play I increase tire wall and hello and that so good to see you today.

Because we have a lot to do we're gonna talk about the prospects for some tax deal.

Obviously it's not going to happen that we stipulate that but after the election and what's going to happen in that lame duck session and all the things that could make like a little squeeze he.

Four Americans come this winter time.

And we'll talk about the effort to by Republicans to force Democrats into yet more uncomfortable -- contortions.

On the president's health care law.

As the house gets ready to vote on that we will do that we will do that thank goodness with the help of our friends David Drucker.

Who you read it roll call you follow him at David Drucker and I say this every time David is on but it bears repeating.

Read -- stuff because.

Essentially what he does best.

Is pull back to the 30000 foot level and tell you things that are actually important but does not get -- -- up in the day today.

House keeping up the -- it's worth doing.

I didn't that was lower case I deny that that was not anything against your competitor David.

And rod -- his former chief of staff.

Two.

The senate Republican conference is -- former.

Director of communications to speaker of the house.

Congressman pastor.

He also knows a lot of stuff is -- -- -- of the red team but he is a clear eyed and not just a talking point machine until at these guys are here.

Playground hey thanks to -- here -- I'm just -- I just can't get over how lucky we are okay so.

Question.

Romney.

School fights here yesterday Republicans have been complaining Bill Kristol and others people who had opposed Romney in the primary process it's -- this -- soft.

Obama's walking all over.

-- sounded a little tougher yesterday a little tougher guy David let's start with you is this reaction.

On Romney's -- is this just coincidental.

Well he's back on the trail.

He took time off for his -- big -- -- -- vacation -- -- only in New Hampshire.

-- say a couple of things I don't agree with.

A lot of the critics.

Who have been hammering Romney for not being ideological.

Enough over the past few weeks.

I believe that.

There's still.

A lot to happen in this campaign and that.

The changes his supporters are looking for -- polling if they're going to happen they're gonna happen in the fall.

I said this before even Reagan didn't would -- Carter in July threat however that being said.

Romney has been sustaining a number of attacks mostly personal were based on his business record it's politics so everything -- -- everything is legitimate.

And I don't care what the attack -- if it goes on insert it has a chance of sticking and finally I'd say that Romney is.

Always at his best when he's fighting back and he's aggressive it has.

Work for him whether he was fighting back against Newt Gingrich fighting back against Rick Santorum or right after he pretty much wrapped -- the primary and started fighting back against President Obama.

And so I think.

Appearances like yesterday's where he did -- a little.

Ideological right but the point is he was fighting explaining himself trying to bring the attack to the president if he's going to win I think that's the best from.

Well this guy you like fighting Romney you would -- enjoyed -- he spoke to 88 cascade of boos to all the boo birds.

Down at the NAACP Houston and he actually -- seemed to be enjoying it he -- like like yeah that's right you -- me I'm gonna come and give you my message really go ahead bring it.

Well -- -- had to do if he if he avoided the NAACP.

Speech it would have been really artillery and I.

All because he is trying to unseat an African American president so it's a little less awkward that that he -- you know what.

Going into the lions and sometimes that is the wise thing to do it -- -- you're not afraid.

To -- other groups that are are not necessarily do it ideologically -- you and ensure America's president if you're elected that your everyone's present he does -- thing.

And now Pennsylvania in Philadelphia.

A couple of months ago worry where he visited a school that he would not normally necessarily.

-- have camp.

-- west West Philadelphia.

As David knows Mitt Romney not going to carry west Philly that's not not falling not only -- the red team this year but but to the point.

He seems to enjoy -- Ronnie seems to thrive on conflict he likes counter punching keys that that seems to be the environment he likes.

Well he really needs is to.

Do a lot more of this you know that the Obama campaign is our plan exceeds -- terms of being capital and outsourcing.

In terms you know having accounts -- offshore accounts and -- he's been largely focused on hammering President Obama in the economy because he thinks that's his biggest weakness.

However people don't know who Romney.

People don't know -- Iran right and so those seeds getting planet can start seeing in the area without Ronnie getting involving car punching that area of concern to -- and that's why did you see him wrapping up his struck.

But there's a thing.

And -- Brit Hume called it the Braveheart strategy for Romney which is he doesn't necessarily want to be in the news all the time.

And as Carl Cameron reported yesterday David Ronnie -- or is he pointed out yesterday.

The Romney campaign doesn't they're raising a ton of money they can spend it yet.

Because they have to wait until after he's actually the nominee is -- way they do it is I'm sure you know is that you raise money you can raise money for the primary and he read my for the general election.

Probably still technically in the primary Obama had months and months and months and months to raise money and he is now pouring it out in cups of fury on Romney's head.

But for -- is there something that -- said to keeping a lower profile now and then waiting to unleash hell.

Come.

September well look it's a strategy could work but it's also a strategy to carries risks that brought us right I agree with him if if he allows.

The Obama campaign to plant seeds of doubt.

They don't want -- they could -- in a sort of permanent treason and carry the analogy of what I did it serves -- maybe -- turns out.

That on the other hand and I think they're that there's a I think this strategy is valid.

Most people aren't really tuned into the campaign yet heard they're -- -- tune in late summer convention time right after Labor Day kids go back to school we know the cliche.

And it's huge and cliche for a reason because it's true -- and that's when it's really going to matter so if if Ronnie starts spending all of his money now and he's has less of it than Barack Obama even if he could use it right he -- -- the fall and in he.

Could be in trouble because Obama will still have money and itself.

I think he has to do a little above you cannot let the media narrative go that he's an evil outsource or who wants to you know.

Crush people this was bank account on the other hand blood yes on the economy.

On the other hand I think in some ways it's and it's wise to just keep his powder dry.

Until one when people are actually paying attention and he has the resources to get this done there's one final caveat I'm sure they have the first early voting -- scheduled on their calendar -- -- all due.

And it's no longer just about convincing people on November 6 it's about convincing people.

At some point in late September October or whenever the first or early October whenever the first early voting.

Whenever the -- start to get mailed out because that's yeah that's your time -- in modern politics.

That's not a caveat that isn't it then -- or corollary but we will still we will still allow -- thank -- The question rod is there's 52.

There's -- -- question people get sick of these people there's been Obama fatigue he's on television all the time for voters like okay.

Enough of this guy I hear him all the time but for Romney.

He would like to be a little he would like remains fresh to voters he doesn't want -- every -- if you get sick of hearing from him right.

Well -- especially regular people who know Mitt Romney -- I mean they are aware of who he is but they're not initially sure.

What he stands for or you know this -- -- so he's going to have to unleash.

Some type of you know biography introduction of himself at some point I think -- studio this is going to be curious stages we're gonna have those spiral videos.

You know buys these -- The advertising introductions about -- we as the you know war town hall meetings and you know this is all gonna happen in stages and launched.

-- probably around probably in mid August opinions.

Mock tank says with getting -- from NAACP Romney will get on every show for the rest of the week saying I will -- repeal obamacare.

Free media like your counter programming idea here mark tank -- about does -- -- we should stipulate.

That.

-- also got a standing O I believe when he was talking about reforming education and and public schools.

So we got that medal if you want to join the fun you can just content.

Down below where we're talking or you can follow me at -- -- -- And you can you can yell at me break here on the Internet machine.

And also you get just for the cost of the phone apparently I write every morning for you -- we have to take a quick break but when we come back.

Let's answer this question why.

Well another repeal -- I thought the house already voted like 56 times to repeal the health care law why are they doing it again.

Well explain that when we get back -- stick around.

We -- here simply killing time because everybody knows -- it.

Is already down -- is -- out so we know it's never gonna become law.

Twice they do -- -- -- yesterday to rooms the meeting we're not trying to make a -- here we're making political points.

And that.

And that is the gosh darn truth that was congresswoman Louise Slaughter Democrat from New York saying that the only reason Republicans.

Work continuing to call for votes on repealing the health care law.

Was to put Democrats in a difficult position.

And this is power play and that's kind of what they like to do over congress -- -- sure they have to give some time to making with the laws of the rules of the stuff but basically.

What this especially this phase of the year the big interest is that.

Creating excruciating.

Moments for your political opponents.

And people who have seen a lot of those excruciating moments come and go -- David Drucker from roll call and run by the Republican strategist.

And -- when you were out working.

In the senate when you were working for the speaker of the house you won't have been on both sides of this of this process where -- -- either didn't -- -- during the squeezing.

The Republicans today hope to force Democrats to.

The goal here I would just don't tell me -- this is right.

The goal today for Republicans is not to get Democrats to switch and vote for repeal but that they would.

-- to uphold abuse booting to uphold the law right that's the -- -- -- -- -- as you know it is this is -- really important -- mean you putting.

Lawmakers on record between now and when they get out of here to campaign is extremely important.

Putting putting lawmakers on record regarding how they feel -- health care policy of -- taxes.

If they switch their votes that's an even better message frankly you can you can -- the president -- these votes are more are -- message -- it's largely defined.

Now by the fact that in 2010.

Lots of democratic lawmakers were thrown out because of their support for.

Obama's health care law.

Right in there and -- you know what they wanted their thinking back to guys.

Who in 2010.

There were some Democrats David that even though they voted against the law still got.

Tangled up and it got voted out right correct and -- don't forget there are voters out there that don't look it.

This the way we do in terms of well you should only can hold a vote if it's going pass otherwise -- wasted -- political.

They're people in America that want congress to do the right thing in their view and so they want obamacare overturned it should be voted on.

Most Republican voters most conservative voters most independents who lean conservative want obamacare gone -- and they'd like to see the house Republican majority the only Republican power center right now -- Washington.

And do something about it and so I think for those reasons it was important I think if you look at overall.

The law is still not broadly popular with the American public.

Accurate opposition to the law serves a lot of passion for conservative -- Republican activism.

And contributions to candidates and so I think that.

It's a it's a net win for four house Republicans to hold the vote.

I do think for Republicans in the party it's important to to.

Cast this as an economic issue as opposed to a health care issue and it's critical issue and say we're getting rid of this and you -- have a job getting rid of this.

So you can keep the coverage you already have we're getting rid of this and if you have a job you can get a race.

If these focus strictly about political health care fight they could lose the kind.

And John Roberts did gives the red team a little bit of -- boost on that one by saying this attacks it's not going to be about mandatory health insurance is not going to be -- -- -- -- fight over is it.

Appropriate for the government to compel an individual by assurance that this is now -- attacks and so that that helps Republicans right -- Yeah -- socially -- if you -- -- -- -- you're basically saying here's another economic hardship you have to deal with especially for people in battleground states.

Here's you know here's something that's going to cost you more money.

And that's where people don't like if you sell it that way.

Are so quickly act universities is the Internet and I was one of my -- -- they do but they do a good job it's reliable -- -- -- -- good they have a national poll out today.

And it -- the race deadlocked 4643.

Still about 6% undecided.

And a lot of good numbers for Romney down in terms of issue orientation and things that tell me that if -- that 6% had to go vote today that -- get.

You get more of them than the president.

So but as you look through the thing that interest -- me.

Is that in the wake of that health care decision and I wrote about this today is that the Republican base remains.

Incredibly.

Engaged 47%.

Of Republicans said they were enthusiastic about November compared to 32% for Democrats it's up for Democrats and Republicans.

But that Republicans were able to step it up stepped it up yet again tells me that what we talked about in terms of day.

Enthusiastic Republican base with health -- is real deal right.

Correct it -- it shows you that.

Before Republicans there is no upside to ignore this even if the race was you're gonna lose -- saw Democrats you're gonna.

Annoying independence in major party with you.

I point out what I want what I thought was interesting in the -- -- was that.

And I was surprised president Obama's favorable number.

Higher than Mitt Romney's was underwater.

At 45 this is with the -- -- unfavorable 47.

And that's very dangerous for president who's otherwise in trouble in 2004 for all the trouble risk president George W.

Bush was -- His personal faith was always above fifty even -- his job approval -- error and so I'd like to see.

Some further polling over the next you know eight weeks or so to see if there's more evidence.

I would actually just like to see.

-- establishment media narrative stop being he's well liked the people like him but they dislike his policies.

Now because -- and I think Ron Bailey if you can put it nonpartisan and a for a second there's always a cost with negative ads.

To the negative ad producer there is always some blowback.

You throw mud you're gonna get a little -- -- idea what you hope is and this is the case for the president with Romney that he is going to jump so much on him and his Swiss bank accounts.

And everything else and just totally.

It's totally cover them.

That whatever blows back on -- won't be so bad I wonder in this case that for the president who had the brand is transformed a nice guy.

She.

Michael oxman called make -- mystic healer.

That that that that stuff.

Does it do more damage for somebody who had a -- like that before.

Select yes it actually is doing brain damage if he's here -- when he elation is negative ads it's gonna hurt someone but.

He's he's that he's looking at the cost benefit of this thing he asked him.

Put -- away as soon as possible before.

Those -- start to solidify.

And people think I can pull a lever for him he'd rather have us like ability go down some -- -- and take Rania.

Because he's got -- -- that cost GS and -- he can.

You can still yet he has.

The historical nature of his presidency is the first African American president.

He has his wife and family who are very popular people like them a lot he had sixteen weeks.

And he's got to cash advantage right now so David doesn't make sense that if you were going to take a hit to your saves now's the time to do -- In the summer when most people -- on vacation and not engaged don't forget we've got conventions in early September late August.

The president can do big positive -- and everybody's paying attention and he can didn't you mr.

hope and change again.

He's got his record to worry about but -- He's the president which means.

If he can be Romney's got a two part game right right -- -- Get to a point where people want to replace the president but also more willing to hire him right the president's got -- one part -- keep the job keep the job keep the other guy and it's unacceptable alternative.

See that's why we like them this is why we like having them -- here on the Internet television we were gonna take a quick break they're gonna stick around it will be joined by congresswoman and Hayworth.

Republican from New York State we're gonna talk about the fiscal abyss that is surely a waiting outside the other side of this election it will be lots of -- so stick around.

-- -- -- -- -- That's very.

And the idea I -- the very idea.

Of raising taxes on small business.

And job creators at the very time we need more jobs is the sort of thing only -- extreme liberal to come up with.

And that was President Obama campaigning in Cedar Rapids I was saying it's -- with him at his daughters want to get really rich.

And that was Mitt Romney campaigning in Grand Junction, Colorado.

Stepping up the rhetoric it against President Obama calling his policies extremely liberal in this power play and what they're talking about -- the candidates are talking about is the president said that what he wants to have happened is that current tax rates for everybody who earned a salary of less than 200000 dollars to remain where they are but he wants a tax increase US taxes to go up.

For people individuals who make more than 2000.

Families with -- -- with 250000.

Fortunately.

David Drucker.

And -- on -- will help us sort that out.

But let us now talk to somebody you've met before Internet.

You know her she is congresswoman name Hayworth -- she's a Republican she's from New York State how are we doing congresswoman.

Great Chris thanks stereo.

How fantastic we're having we're having it is it -- -- over here today.

The question congresswoman is this.

The president says.

That at the very least at the very least at a minimum.

What Republicans in the house ought to assent to is protecting for a year.

The tax rates of individuals because at the end of the year everybody's taxes go up if congress doesn't act.

Well I think we should be protecting every American from a tax increase.

And that includes -- -- the Americans to have less than 2151000.

Dollars a year in income.

And all the rest of us so many and those who are in a higher category.

We are driving the president unfortunately and governor Ronnie is exactly right the president is the biggest outsource -- in the nation probably in our history -- Because he endorses a tax structure -- punish -- enterprise and actually dries it out of our country.

The -- ten house -- is driving medical device manufacturers out of the country.

This is a terrible thing for America and it doesn't have to be that's what we're working so hard to reverse in the house majority.

Well you're senator Charles Schumer -- the other team.

And expressed some concern he walked it back a little bit but expressed some concern that in those places like New York 200000 dollars doesn't -- what it does in Tom won Iowa so.

Is there -- concern for people who are from states.

Like -- and had very high cost of living.

Well I mean clearly yes I'm very concerned about being -- Constituents I -- in the Hudson Valley New York which is a beautiful yes very expensive place to -- very since -- expensive state in which to live.

Why in large part because we have such high taxes and such heavy regulations and we don't as a state -- had to -- and enterprise out of New York State which is why we've lost two congressional districts.

But did not use the federal government should not be -- winners and losers this way.

-- mom and the American people we should be treating people the president talks.

All the time about fairness.

This is a very important concept.

Let's be -- here.

To every American who works hard who burns who was trying to save and invest and roll and I'm here.

In the case of our small businesses in particular.

This is not the time to.

Taped more for Washington that's a very bad idea and it does not grow the economy this is an entirely.

Toxic myth that somehow federal stimulus -- the economy it shrinks the economy is the evidence of the past three and a half years.

Has clearly told us.

Congressman last thing is it does the president have a point though that's that it would be helpful to take some of these things remember.

At the end of the year we're gonna have not only will the current tax rates expire but we're not going to be able to fund the government anymore we've got huge defense -- coming we have doc fix we have all of this stuff that has been shoved into a lame duck session at the end of the year.

Because of the divided nature of Washington today shouldn't it -- some things that could be moved out and gotten out of the way now so it doesn't create big Kramer.

Chris absolutely and I would love to see.

Art 2001.

In 2003.

Tax rates extended.

For at least a year for every Americans that we can have -- reassurance because -- that they healthy way.

Can generate greater revenues for our.

Federal debt that we face together.

Is to grow the economy and and we can we can put extra energy into the economy.

When we allow Americans to benefit from the work that they do and when we allow businesses.

To grow and hire based on what they earn and not sending it to Washington to.

-- in ways that -- not always wise as we know very well from this and case of the stimulus from Solyndra and from many other examples.

If you lived in Peekskill you know -- -- -- congresswoman and Hayworth we thank you so much for being with us today.

Thank you Chris it's always applied here.

OK gentlemen you have seen congressional -- functionality at at a very high level and up close and then the nation has been treated to the hottest dose of that -- a long time in recent days.

Just give us you were.

Picture of how dreadful December is going to be -- start with you.

How old man -- All I had work -- Christmas shopping online yeah.

That's pretty good -- I -- it is going to be it's all the fiscal cliff and you're going to have everything from tax.

The taxes that -- to the defense cuts to the C -- resolution funding the government.

All of these things and more are going to come to a head in December and it's gonna take a lot of energy and it's really gonna depend on who the next president yes.

Because of its president quote our president elect Ronnie.

Then he's likely to.

Help extend those tax for a tax rate the bush tax cuts.

Through next year of its present bombings -- a lot of expire.

Now what's gonna happen data they're gonna just -- and so it depends on who wins what in the election if you come back we've divided government again good luck.

America have fun with that but if if -- if Romney wins the White House but as old -- in the -- close.

You would expect.

That what you get in that lame duck session would be -- -- for a couple of months.

And conversely if the Democrats the president holds on Democrats keep the senate may be a -- the Republican majority has little -- you get -- punch to and then didn't -- the new team comes in and does their thing right.

Correct.

Although say I expected to tax cuts to completely expire a couple of years ago no president in no way the president -- on this it'll just going to the new year they'll fight it out.

The -- doing something retroactive.

But the two sides aren't going to be able to meet in -- Mitch McConnell the Republican senate leader ended up negotiating with Vice President Biden and we had a two year extension.

So there is a lot to happen and I'm not saying it's going to get fixed that.

And that's this senator -- senators get it -- a live look attractive.

But but.

I -- -- in your right sort of depends on what happens in the election if they're all gonna play a game of chicken and then by about you know December 23.

They're gonna announce that nobody's taxes are going up right because nobody really wants nobody really wants -- series we're gonna we're gonna have to see.

What happens the -- influence how these lawmakers feel many of them on their way out of the war.

Okay.

Gentlemen we thank you so much for being with us today along with -- enjoy your -- and who knew -- would feel that ninety degrees in Washington would feel like a cool thus spring breeze thank you very much for being with us today Internet two pieces of good news number one on the hunt with Jonathan Hunt is up next for you and now.

As we like to do every day we want to leave you with the word.

From our friend Charles.

But I think what's so impressive about this -- how small a game -- play.

Years ago comes in 2008 open changed change the way Washington.

The words he passes a trillion dollar stimulus who aren't you spending in American history.

He -- -- health care bill that is 160 the US economy attempts cap and trade which would control.

The energy industry he does Dodd-Frank which regulates finances -- guy wants to change America -- so.

And -- -- proposing here is they said her idea of his.

I haven't planned for the next term.

A partial extension of tax cuts.

For one year.

Just -- on -- American people.

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