Cross border shooting response to rock throwing
Bill Daly and Tom Ruskin take a look at an incident at the US border with Mexico
- Duration 6:54
- Date Jul 11, 2012
Bill Daly and Tom Ruskin take a look at an incident at the US border with Mexico
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I had only serious business of the day.
We had got this report that we were -- -- are actually here I think it was Monday reported this set cross border shooting down in that Texas.
The -- US Border Patrol agent shooting across the border having apparently been attacked with -- -- rocks thrown at them.
The Mexican government set a one point.
That they'd actually US Border Patrol agent shooting across the border shot dead a Mexican I didn't see any follow up on that I don't know what happened to that.
Particular element of it whether it all went quiet they decide everybody said hey let's make this a bigger insulin needs to be -- whether it didn't actually happen but.
It's it's a -- -- when we see that kind of activity on the -- Absolutely and we don't support our border agents and off.
They are constantly under attack this is just one of the -- But we had border officers in the past who have fired shots and have been arrested.
For doing their job and we have to start supporting them.
Because they are supporting us -- of protecting our borders from people coming across that we know the drug traffickers gun traffickers and we have -- furious.
Which was coming across the border -- These are the people coming across the border not to mention the people would just trying to immigrate to this country because a better place to live.
It did bill and the getting rocks thrown at them from across the border.
In this instance apparently you know we don't know the situation obviously.
It it is shooting back.
Reasonable response to rocks being thrown -- mean.
We see that a lot of announces of.
-- in middle east of the unity that world you know.
He you have to always say is you know the force of police -- law wasn't easy uses is -- -- of counter the forces being you know.
Presented to them right and is that he life threatening situation.
-- senate and certainly throwing rocks and -- how many people throwing rocks and anyhow.
You know larger rocks are and how how vulnerable you are made presented an issue of kind of you know your personal life safety of which -- -- can.
And you can't say full control agency if you're attacked by rocks what you should do is throw rocks back -- exact day I mean that's not yet -- because -- you -- -- Tuesday in.
You know in a way it is the it is the US is our representatives who are under attack right and they need to defend themselves know what that level of.
Response should be is really dictated by the people in the street much like police officers who need to.
Make that split second decision to say I'm being confronted with this force what -- his account -- -- -- to be applied in order to reduce the situation.
So -- I wasn't there right you really can't comment on whether or not the force is correct but you know these guys is -- -- have a very very tough job it's not just people.
You know the trying to -- to his community into the country -- these heavily armed individual right.
Who -- -- start throwing rocks and maybe start shooting right after that so they need to make some decisions and and I support them I support their activities.
Yeah I'm content just so difficult ball -- anybody to put your issues.
Put yourself in the shoes all of those -- -- yeah I know this is what always bothers me I mean your of course your right proportionality is a logical com -- sitting on a desk of course it should all be proportional but.
You know it's hot and there you're getting picked on all day people yelling hey people are angrier and a bad mood these punks are throwing things at you -- one of them children actually plots you on the head with something.
-- we'll you know what.
And we also don't know what -- -- as -- wounds that we don't know what the incident.
Was all about we don't know if they were trying to come over the number of that was trying to come over if you're being thrown if you're trapped and you have nowhere to go then.
Using your gun is reasonable force against Iraq -- -- and kill.
Right did you use it very seriously and depending on the number of people throwing rocks and the circumstances.
Deadly physical force would you gun could be -- we.
We also see down there or kind of tactics in the changing continuously with regard to the the drug cartels moving drugs over the border in Minnesota Sunday last week where they actually drives some the vans.
And crash them into -- ran and let that let you truckload a little bit people come and take the drugs to get drivers was back to shore.
You know you just don't know what Roos is being played over and if everything they can chase -- the Border Patrol agents -- -- some rocks at them to allow kind of all cavalcade of characters yes it would -- right I mean -- -- Point being that -- the the rock throwing it.
Can be can be volatile and -- -- on -- diversionary tactic way most serious -- sure -- -- I used to just picture today very dangerous I think we can put it up on the screen of this stuff here from these -- Well we don't have the right spread but -- laws traffic that wasn't from Tulsa.
It was from Tulsa Oklahoma wide and it was also clubs -- anybody in Tulsa Oklahoma.
Give us the right petition or anything like it may have been shot by an individual who may have rights the right sure but.
Tulsa Oklahoma the police department has been seizing vehicles for use by the police department.
And they've been putting on the back that this used to belong to a drug dealer and now belongs to us on the back of the vehicle that they have seized.
Rose and this was draws it was a drug dealers and national unity -- totally admire that I enjoy I don't know it's all the FaceBook if you -- -- check it out but this was scientific -- SUV.
And -- in the back window I had a big lead is this used to belong to a drug -- Now it's -- and your point only is that what a great message to get out that it's really great message it's something that goes on routinely do law enforcement the DE TF the drug enforcement tennis force in New York City.
As -- the police department has rights to seize vehicles.
After they've been used in the commission of a crime right and -- -- -- -- you -- forfeiture proceedings.
But in this case they're advertising the fact that this used to belong to a drug dealer.
We busted that drug -- he's probably in jail and we have -- the proceeds of his crime.
Which happen to be this escalade vehicle.
Does have built I don't get I think there's a great idea I think you know the -- about a level of deterrence but also.
And people aware of of what the activity is going on and how much how the police circled aren't to be in the fact that if you are court.
-- when these situations even perhaps not wittingly or knowingly.
-- can determine what you when -- really mean.
Is that you can have your vehicle -- so so watch what you do you watch you have a new vehicle watch you know we have friends are because this vehicle may and to be going to the police.
For the good work in reverse if you want to driving police are driving ferraris and say that nobody's saying all this drugging when things are bad look at what -- -- -- exactly -- -- got a nice way Leo head and -- I a little while there the other benefit that comes at this for police departments and law enforcement agencies they get the use of equipment that -- even have to purchase that aren't coming -- -- -- -- -- That are not course in the department anything to utilize my eyes and including computers very sophisticated computers right and other equipment that the seizing during these drug related to -- accident -- -- notice that -- -- used.
In undercover operations review need to drive around a Ferrari to pretend to run drug dealer to run I think it's the drug deal gone and out -- what drug dealers and happens -- -- all right gentlemen.