Witness accuses Zimmerman, family of being racists
Legal panel weighs in on the case
- Duration 7:55
- Date Jul 16, 2012
Legal panel weighs in on the case
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Kelly -- back in session on the docket today new evidence in the trade on -- murder case or is it.
Prosecutors release about 150 phone calls made by George Zimmerman in jail.
He's -- neighborhood watch volunteer who says that he shot the seventeen year old -- in self defense but some new recordings from a woman known as witnessed nine.
Could spell potentially more trouble for mr.
She tells investigators as is in addition to the jailhouse phone calls she tells investigators that her family has no -- for years.
And now she claims they -- all a bunch of racist.
Just that I was afraid that.
That's the thing because people just.
-- is growing up.
They've always made big -- and -- always made statements that they are white black people did.
They don't like what people they like black people -- they act like.
And and a they.
Don't like people.
Hearing -- now.
Israel was a Fox News legal analyst and mark -- question is a former prosecutor now defense.
Really I mean can we can we all agree that this would never be allowed -- evidence at trial -- Well the first part of it to parts of this evidence is but at what evidence the part where she's saying witnessed -- -- as saying that there were sexual molestation when they were what six and -- That's never coming -- that's not relevant it's overly prejudicial it's not coming and the jury's not gonna hear that.
His -- his family always made the statements that they don't like black people.
The other part Megan that part.
Could come in and here's why.
There are good character witnesses to prop up somebody and say this defendant is wonderful and you're all the wonderful things he's others like and there are bad character witnesses at the prosecution can't bring it if the prosecution can show that that's relevant it goes is -- mindset that that fateful night it may come and make him.
Mark she does seem to say on the tape he and his family.
If she's got -- that he has made it -- his statements in the past about not liking black people.
Then maybe they got it but a fan yeah.
-- right let me just say -- anything is possible but when she specifically asked on that tape.
What did he specifically say he meaning George Zimmerman what has he said in the.
Past that caused you to conclude that he was a racist she said I can't remember anything OK what about him acting out on it.
What did you observe.
I can't say anything about that so vague where now judged by what our parents think that would mean I don't like dogs and I love dogs this thing.
And then and then he may get specific with cat with her saying.
Well then what specifically do you remember what are you referring to witness number nine -- -- whole family.
He's a bunch of racists and here's what she said.
And just be a little clearer on -- what what you're saying.
-- family his racial.
Very loud and that I was working.
So they're talking about.
Something it is.
You know we're talking -- she's I don't like.
Just thinking -- was joking and she said because he's black I'm not racist.
That hatch -- and a lot of that had a lot leans right I mean it's a real stretch for the prosecution alleging that the prosecution's argument at the prosecution is say look.
He grew up with this.
This is the mentality he didn't say anything he would like -- mother's father and never he really.
I don't never -- account you're my daughter by the way anyway.
I don't mean this is.
Here's the thing a way that does this is talking got they got they got some what is ever ninth saying this is the mother of George Zimmer and I was I was it was it was sent to some woman.
I don't like Obama because she's -- because -- black I am a racist right.
Here's the problem make it even if the prosecution gets a -- judge -- okay it's got some tangential relevancy that he you know he was there wasn't there whatever.
The promise is as a prosecutor I wouldn't really wanted and because if I'm stretching out heart if -- battled and that's where I motivation that's not a good thing the prosecution.
Now that's the point Megan -- -- say the problem here they have charge this as a second degree murder they skipped over manslaughter they're looking at this is a life felony that means they have to prove ill will hatred or spite.
What next they're gonna show some witness who saw him eating a black and white -- -- only -- the white part.
I'll know but -- it thinking yeah I thought if -- -- summer or not you're not a witness came forward and said look I heard him saying those things the racist comments whatever they are are you.
And apparently -- -- read that comment I agree that not your closer to a grandmother like okay after the -- we're gonna have a this alleged molestation now why are we hearing about this.
A these will mark -- charged back with us now and now this witness number nine says not only this stuff about the family and racism.
But the following about alleged molestation when she was six and he was eight.
-- -- -- -- I would try to -- a lot -- He was bigger and stronger.
-- I didn't say anything but I just didn't own any.
It's not gonna come -- make it I mean them but the most the prosecution says look as -- the prior bad act you know should come under the prior bad act.
Well it's a six and an eight year old there's no proof there were never any charges is nothing that is that they really can substantiate.
She goes -- -- we're not talking about sex or you know right I don't get too graphic right let it seems to be the extent of what we just -- is the alleged molestation right.
At but the prosecution to make its case would say look this does is one more example he was a bad guy when he was eight.
-- was our worst side that I'm just I'm not saying it's gonna win I'm saying if I were the prosecution and I try it wanted to try to get the sense to influence the jury to say he's a bag it was a bad -- that he's a bag guy now.
That's -- argued.
Just our attendees will UN press the hell out of me the fact that you didn't let that argument -- for I live just second straight ACC went I don't know.
This is so unbelievably legally relevant however I'll take -- where it's relevant in -- court of public opinion.
Well I don't know it's legally -- relevant but I court of public opinion people are salivating one more reason to hate George government and the potential jury pool is now further poisoned.
You know when it comes time.
Aren't down are why we can't tell you find out that he was eight and she was now.
And you know they're not -- here that I went on again you're talking about how -- is asked are she was -- and you eighteen and you know he was trying to like -- -- like.
Right but again couldn't get it at this and we talk about an earlier segment I worry for the prosecution to over -- to look like they're trying even all of our.
On his dad and -- he's actually better understand at all actually says it.
It sounds like this woman has an ax to grind again right.
Is it -- -- and can't if it's true that to happen it's it was six he was eight exactly would she be even more willing to make things -- but if I'm the Pentagon prosecutors don't collar.
And I don't like I'm gonna call it if you just try this from getting relief are and the judge overruled that the president doesn't know -- in as evidence I worked at different in the past that come out because the law allows -- here in Florida but I understand why would want him credit to the big debate thank you most of my.