Is Obama attacking success?
T.J. McCormack & Penny Lee discuss Romney's accusation that Obama thinks success is shameful
- Duration 17:24
- Date Jul 18, 2012
T.J. McCormack & Penny Lee discuss Romney's accusation that Obama thinks success is shameful
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Did to be here all right up a couple of things I think that's deeper discussion.
I'm Carl Cameron started talked about it we had a piece on foxnews.com.
Obama wants Americans be quote ashamed of success Republican presidential candidate of course that's seizing.
President Obama's gap right in which he suggested businesses owe their success in large part to government investment and -- business owners quote you did not build that.
-- Eighty pennies -- -- in in in in DC do you believe that the president.
Is this means that the president is quote ashamed of success.
That quote is being taken woefully out of context.
And if you listen to the entire speech -- what the president was saying it was like look.
We all as a country need to.
Come together and and realize that through all of our successes.
We will all be able to move this economy Ford and -- not one can take the individual.
It was a celebration the individual but also -- the understanding that without the proper education without the emphasis in it and infrastructure -- -- -- You know money going to research and development and our universities many of the corporation that we see today probably wouldn't be here's awaiting Hussein is look at takes all of us.
It was not an attack on individuals it was not an attack on entrepreneurs it was not an attack.
On those that have -- created an interesting idea.
But just -- -- -- -- -- need to come together and all of these different things is what makes this country great and what makes us all successful so.
It was a woefully out of context that that Romney is now picked up on.
-- -- what do you have to say about it.
I'm always struck by people who think -- I'm just so Smart.
I think -- were taken the wrongs that Bristol is not it in context out of context.
This was not a gaffe this was him going off prompter and talking from his.
Leftist gut is what this lies and the whole idea about people saying it was taken out of context -- you know you can -- that getting -- of the people doing that what.
I didn't care about that comment the comment that get that getting that gets me is the stuff about I'm so Smart although I worked hard and everybody else.
He is absolutely.
Speaking from his.
Heart and his -- He believes these people owe everything to other people.
And on it's it's it was -- -- window just like cleaners to guns and religion was a window to this man.
Just like other other -- off what he thought was off the record off the cuff moments.
You know there comes a time and you how when -- made enough money and the man has set the president that.
And the others and are -- with this is that you know what just bad timing in general -- gonna go off prompt and you're gonna say something off off the -- How -- you just go 100%.
Inspiring and not in any way disparagement and not in any way disparaging that was not the time to cut anybody.
To -- I just -- especially when do you think that it was.
And insight into Mitt -- soul when he said the corporations are people -- doesn't really care about the very poor.
They when he went out there with many other statements that without the insight into what his soul -- about.
-- not because those were you take those in context out of -- -- -- those out of context.
And they -- entirely different meanings you present this as it was you present this.
In context and it's still -- -- -- its -- little -- all I just what how do you how do you explain him talking about people all just so Smart.
That is saying that.
He is hard at yeah get our bodies and that pretty -- -- -- -- was that we as a country when you invest in our people.
We as a country when investor -- -- true -- -- how to thrive in a -- educational system boat that.
Educators students from K through twelve but also in the higher -- and making sure that we have the necessary skills.
To fill those skills gap that all the many reasons I'm always struck me having -- well in those specific must be hugely because celebration of the successes of many of these businesses.
And of the entrepreneur so it was not that he was.
Allegedly seeing what you're electing him to say to.
I'm right here let well let me jump in here I -- guys know election.
Let me jump in here let's -- -- be heard let's see.
A -- this -- coming from working for penis is mr.
That all business owners operate the same as he comment from -- for jury -- -- isn't it time for the guys running for president.
Do not only focus on the Olympics but to move the debate to foreign -- such as Turkey.
China and Indonesia -- -- hot -- going on now -- respond penny.
Sure and the president it is is saying that it many times he has been out there and -- and he has addressed these issues as he continues to.
To monitor what's happening in Syria as he continues to have -- focus on you know just recently -- secretary of state Hillary Clinton was.
Over in the Middle East in trying to find.
Places in which they can work in a diplomatic way and so he is.
First and foremost he is focused on foreign and domestic at the same time it is it it is a top balancing act but he has his hands.
On all things TJ a question for you it says why this is from that David Larson did -- -- has neither party willingly taken a pay cut in congress or the president.
How many jobs -- you you said 174000.
For working only a hundred.
Eighty days a year.
Yes I election that would be delicious if they would do that I think that would be a fabulous start but they're never gonna do that in a million years you know -- It would be in nice a nice gesture you know and then I don't know I guess the answer is on the latest sign up for the job you know that's part of -- -- her let's move.
Right now penny the same -- from foxnews.com.
The Obama campaign is accusing Romney's camp of lodging false attacks.
This which is it's a distraction from the unclear -- Stanton and perhaps unanswered request for more tax documents.
I think Sampson really mean this is you know -- round -- -- best -- to continue to play in the game of hiding their seek an end.
Also you -- move the conversation out I mean this is someone who has not been transparent with the American public on so many different levels he hasn't been transparent with this -- the policy positions he was.
You know when he was governor he governed as a pro choice and now is -- he's involved in these.
Now pro life and who knows where he'll be at the end of the day on so many different issue.
He hasn't been transparent with his own tax records he hasn't been transparent about exactly what.
-- what his role was and -- during 1999 to 2000 into he hasn't been transparent about who his bunkers are who are actually funding this campaign.
On and on this is the man who has lacked transparency and when call to bring that forth to the American public.
He has continues say no and effect relationship the subject so I think these these ads right now are trying to deflect from really answering the question that the American people are asking.
Well it nobody at -- -- the viewers at home got their DNC talking points I think penny is illustrated the fact that they were transparency.
Is that is being amongst them this morning.
Yeah look I think all of us on this side would like to -- She -- few issues as possible and you wonder if the Romney camp is rightfully or wrong or wrongly.
Playing an odds game.
I think playing some sort of thing where there deciding which is gonna hurt the more transparency.
Or putting it off you know I think.
I think if we start talking about the other stuff the evolution well you know -- more than that then then leftists are allowed to -- President Obama is.
-- last minute.
Epiphany on gay marriage -- -- saturated that you know.
Leftists are allowed to evolve and conservatives are not -- -- it.
Anyway I -- as as a conservative I would like to see more from Romney and I think just in terms of a strategic thing and I just get out it'd be kicking around a bit let's go to this penny could be -- -- here this from the hill dot com.
Several Republican lawmakers are are prodding -- governor Romney to release additional tax returns and other financial documents -- -- -- Should the president campaign debate back to the economy.
Why is this important TJ is this now -- to speak to transparency trust character.
It speaks to taking the narrative away from the left and they're still not differs in the mainstream media take away.
Dick you know it didn't before you know it if you get a basketball player who can't use his left hand -- -- that you forced him to it to the left.
All right we make them start driving the narrative and take it out of their hands.
Go ahead released some stuff.
Do -- strategically do it's Smart.
Do it quickly I think a lot of people they have their money on -- -- -- a couple of weeks once we get August and a little bit quiet time before everybody gears up for the -- Convention that -- can't wait that -- well yeah not many electing an area I don't -- it's a good point you know.
I'm sorry but I anyhow you see.
-- -- It's stuns me that the you know that he has -- this is man who's been running for president for the better happen.
Probably eight years -- -- -- in the last four winds didn't come out for knowing that these questions would be asked knowing that this.
Level of scrutiny is what the American people demand and ask him -- -- at their president or the presidential candidate why he didn't release this for years ago or three years ago.
Why you -- -- can continue to not even have sound.
There's this is you know like a moment here and -- gonna -- you could make it lets you want because they know what this is yet again another another example of how this is the most poorly prepared candidate -- candidacy.
And the history if it in my lifetime this man has not had.
Bet that they're right prepared answers going all the way back a couple is it just this past campaign.
Primary season he didn't have the answers when it came to his own taxes and and and then to percent of his tax treaty didn't have the -- on on Mormon is we didn't have the -- on on on gay America.
He -- that they knew as soon as there's an article that if somebody that as soon as McCain lost.
You know wait.
That's when they should've gotten this machine fired up and started releasing documents -- -- dumps on a daily basis one moment let me it was coming in from Sally.
Obama will use them until election to not have the real issues discussed.
-- -- You know I love does that -- you're you're here aren't welcome released more than people are gonna start to ask more questions -- is ahead.
Asked who let the American people deserve.
Don't they have the right to know you know when you go buy a car you have protection because you don't have a -- -- with the -- them wanting you get to know what is actually under that hood.
Don't the American people in Missouri when they vote for president that same kind of level of this.
Scrutiny that they are able to see what exactly is under this hood so yes it might ask some more questions but they're entitled to as those questions you gotta wonder.
What are those type what what are the answers that are out there and he should immediately an explanation for him but I think having that level -- questioning has absolutely appropriate you know we don't and I agree except.
Is that caveat is that we're talking about the media from talking about the leftists do the talking about the MSNBC -- talking about.
Those places New York Times places that are gonna take things and -- -- you talk about contacts sync contacts out of context you start talking about how somebody's gonna -- what they -- have a complete.
Is set of offshore whatever or tax haven -- some.
Could be completely legal and they will take it and they will they will mold and shape it into the way and let me ask you this if it TJ if in fact.
The people want to know I'm just Asher what if -- you what let's say it's all a legitimate neatly done them and if if you're just hypothetically speaking your -- if -- didn't -- me governor Romney were to disclose and we find out that he has.
Lots of investments in and attack safe havens in various.
Countries -- accounts.
What does it -- to the people though because the people who are here at home especially people kind of in the middle of our our tax paying.
You know -- if you will.
They're kind of in the middle of this section paying a lot of taxes saying I can't afford to pay these taxes in the -- of the guy who makes hole.
Truckload of money more that I do and he's able to kind of get around paying these taxes -- legal or not -- it it it makes them say well that's not fair right well you know hey I think again I think it's all about timing and and the sooner the better and you get it out of the way you do it America likes honestly and as and it said.
Numerous times -- transparency.
On but it's it's important -- it to do it now and and these thorough and forthright and I think they'll ultimately the American people do have.
Age -- -- low threshold.
For being annoyed by beating a dead horse so I think if he comes out -- it and then Obama tries to it.
To just beat it beat it beat it -- beat it it's going to be a lot of middle Americans -- aren't enough with the tax stuff let's get back to the issues and so you know.
-- -- Yeah I mean it it will we have learned so far is that when he has released his tax credit you know it it goes to -- -- what his values are.
And we have started deceive the little things you know that he did could have offshore accounts in related that he had Swiss bank accounts that he would be easy to -- the value they did it have that they didn't he didn't -- the same rate as that many of their.
Part of what -- As America's values of hard hit it goes it goes it because it goes to the bat they hit it goes to why are those there why aren't they why -- want to -- because they're legal age and their tax shelters and he hasn't.
Billions of dollars and he needs to not have need to keep as many of them as possible and that they -- at a news or haven't.
It isn't what it does on -- invested in can be put into it.
Dee Dee -- invest in certain companies that didn't (%expletive) this big ship jobs overseas did -- invest in companies that actually make companies here did he date did -- go into with his practices and Bain Capital.
What where those values in trying to ballclub the companies did the actually outsource the job sister who oversees he's taken for the share profit Stevie actually try to increase there.
Job -- those -- legitimate questions and values that often times are shown through the lens of where you put your finances and so.
Those are questions that should be asked and in these times are -- -- By more information so American people want to know.
Who is this man that -- -- -- stealing our trust to be able to go out and vote for him.
Cool is it and has often times in those financial not gonna -- -- -- and demonstrate and show the value put that person is you don't have -- let's talk about this.
Where is it.
The VP process.
Business how Romney might -- -- VP contenders will go down this this sort of this list and see how far we can go over there so.
Socially conservative number one Romney's big almost certainly -- could be.
-- tick this box you say what he gave.
To into what exactly what he wanted to socially conservative Leo Laporte and even -- -- dead at the list of -- characteristic.
I'll give -- give -- give a box take an eight added ten on the importance of that box checked okay so I say it's.
-- pretty important because.
It it it it balances off again socially conservative than he had -- -- bounces off some of his waffling on those issues -- any.
You know -- it out of I was just say that at the end of the -- the people are gonna vote for the president of the United States and and I know a lot and know a lot of people.
Will go through -- -- I've been through this -- you know other campaigns in -- trying to figure out.
Do you do I need to balance young vs older regional final from the northeast -- -- somebody from the south do I need Healy is if I'm fiscally conservative doing anything -- Angry about it so I don't think.
-- I hate it illness or visit the top of the ticket yeah bottom line but let me just they're on everything this conversation -- A couple of the other characteristics or our requirements if you will but they're saying that.
Perhaps the governor Romney should consider.
Someone -- quote not scary is someone who we consider this -- state ranks doing considers me demographics governor.
Former governor is and no bush connections.
I did yeah.
And I just -- -- -- they -- -- the number one quality is who whoever they reaches its candy stepping in to be president of the United States.
If in case of the day they are called to do that -- -- fill that gap and that's the credibility gap or that's experience gap.
That needs to be filled -- so yes I think that Mitt Romney has some weaknesses.
Candy the enhanced with the vice presidential candidate.
Can they be enhanced in places like an Ohio like a Portman.
-- help and now moving of one or 23 percentage points.
Can Marco Rubio help him in the Hispanic community all of those are gonna be way but the number one criteria needs to be.
Can this person step in and fill the role of president of the United States.
And Elaine you get final word today thank you very much and and seed in the car -- I started reviews I led many of the final word -- -- transparency I think was very it was an instinct.
Game villagers being with -- summing up and when my thing was.
What -- -- hash tag a ball marks.
That's my cashed in around anything to get famous -- okay beat you do anything lucky enough to pick up at TJ -- -- Ali good to see you at.