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Well -- -- Obama governor Romney you might have some company.
Reports are delivered our -- that's -- -- Gary Johnson could join the presidential debates this fall.
It's true the former New Mexico governor joins me right now governor I -- understanding is that you might hit that threshold of 15% of the polls that would automatically invite you.
In the debates.
Might or might not happen -- aways from -- now what about 5%.
Again depending on the poll in some states people much better than that but you think you'll get to that 15% threshold.
Yeah I'm believing that that will happen Neil and and most importantly the notion that there would actually be a debate that would take place that some I would be the only candidate that doesn't want to bomb Meyer ran.
And be the only candidate that wants to get out of Afghanistan bring the troops home now.
I'd be the only candidate that wants to repeal the Patriot Act I wouldn't have signed the national defense authorization act.
I'm the only candidate that -- really believes we should balance the federal budget now.
And of course that means reforming entitlements Medicaid and Medicare.
And I'd like to reform me I'm gonna promised -- on the part of reforming the tax system abolishing the IRS.
Income tax corporate tax replacing it with a national consumption tax the fair tax so while.
I -- I'm on stage -- otherwise I don't know if it ends up being a debate.
Well you know you watch.
He had a Republican primary you're very good debater when you get the chance I think people forget -- like you -- not.
You're pretty good at that stuff -- you -- just have to get that chance.
But the argument is that -- are going to hurt Mitt Romney more than you will Barack Obama your views on entitlements notwithstanding.
And that you're going to play the role of the spoiler and -- the president's reelection when -- Well actually it's been actually it's -- that has been put to the test with the polling that they have done and in some states I take more votes away from Obama.
In other states -- take more votes away from Romney so.
It it bears out what we've thought all along I'm gonna take equally from both sides and I'm gonna take from a group in the middle that ordinarily don't vote.
And what we're trying what I'm trying to tap into right now is the fact that there are more people in this country that call themselves libertarian.
Then vote libertarian.
So I'm asking everybody in that category to actually vote libertarian with me this one time and let's really try and make -- change.
What -- you know.
-- third party candidates have been in the race a lot of people what both.
If you had your druthers would would you vote for this person out of whether it's John Anderson in 1980 Ross Perot and I did I do do.
I didn't go back to George Wallace -- -- -- 68 a lot of leaves the I'd -- form but I don't think he has its hands.
That George Wallace picked up a lot of votes and Andrea many target the -- to -- and 22 Richard Nixon in 1968 many argue 1990 do.
Prevented Jordan was senior from being reelected we go back aboard on this.
Throughout they all lost and and so even as impressively as they do in -- 90% of the vote event.
Everyone says you're gonna lose so why do this.
Well back to back to the -- Is it isn't going to be a debates given that you know are sixteen trillion dollar debt.
Eight and a half trillion of that is from democratic.
Seven and a half trillion of it is from Republican.
What what's the debate going to be over it looked let's balance the federal budget now let's reform the entitlements.
Let's let's get out of Afghanistan and let's have real true free trade.
And the drug wars -- there's some really big difference -- between what is helping governor you'd think you could get to do 170 electoral votes to win at all.
Do you know -- the only way that the only scenario under which I win is if I'm actually in the debates -- course that could be crash and burn that might be.
A lot of attention.
What I need is -- what I need our people to go to my website Gary Johnson 2012 dot com check me out -- of what I'm saying.
See what I'm saying.
The problems facing the country the solutions -- that I don't have a resonates.
To suggest that I'm not gonna doggedly pursue this agenda that I'm talking about.
Governor thank you very much who has been saying -- great seeing you thank you.
Governor Johnson or.
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