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Let's get a list of the fast and furious first.
So five ATF first -- ATF officials.
And sort of not charged it its -- but sort of accused of -- -- being.
Involved in this by Republican Convention this is what everybody wants to know what they -- -- -- side and find about the attorney general.
-- -- is this.
To you Liz is this.
8 January in the necessary.
Investigation to continue or is it to political posturing in an election -- I think it's on both I mean this is a serious thing that went I think is the stupidest program and it obviously went seriously -- -- and when you have people being murdered.
Courtesy of guns that we are providing.
As that our government is providing that's a pretty serious charge so.
Look I think as in many government screw ups.
-- it's bad enough to cover up if that's indeed what's been taken place is even worse and I think holder.
You know has been pretty careless with his response to congress on this I think he would have done much better to -- it.
Very seriously just as congress wanted him to do and he hasn't done that so.
You know it's a back and -- but I mean I question really whether voters are that embedded in the store in New York -- -- concerned about at this point.
But -- but I also think to kind of just walk away from it now and say well.
You know it's complicated thousands of pages we don't really have to pursue this I don't think that's correct either right me -- Yeah I agree with -- I think that that be.
With the tragic failure.
Right and the program and and we need says we need to honor that and and an investigation on this level I think is appropriate acting a bit with the ATF and what they're discovering in this the nuts and bolts and you think that's fair that's fair to -- two.
To agent that we lost in their front and I think that's very important.
But I do think this was it was more witch hunt -- than necessary I think that hard.
You know kind of stonewalling as -- as he's been accused of has been a response to.
With keys felt as up as a completely partisan witch hunt and the reality is this is a program.
That started under bush that was ended under holder and and this investigation is focused on in for now on communication that came after.
The program right and it.
And so you know I'm happy to see this level of report I I still think that you know probably anything that congressman -- that produces its going to be a little bit more partisan.
But but I I.
Doing it for we are it is intensely partisan period that's the apple.
A couple of our other view is weighing in Brian Conway says we now know more about 5000 -- of five people will take the full.
I guess he means he's five named -- ATF officials.
While holder and President Obama will skate.
-- -- anyone says why we let this fast and furious investigation drag on like this.
Brian Conway also says to Liz.
To -- General Motors protecting his boss and his boss protects him it's a perfect symbiotic relationship.
With the public the -- -- man.
I -- -- and I -- make my first of many references today to the Gallup poll that came out yesterday.
I was surprised and rather pleased to see that one of the highest concerns of Americans this corruption he.
I don't usually think of that as something that in the United States that we are so focused on it was way above taxing the wealthy -- way above green the climate change but.
I think it's very interesting and I think this is the kind of story unfortunately that really feeds the narrative.
That there's corruption in government.
In academia in the business world and I think people getting sick of it when I mean I'm sick of and -- sort of open the paper every day and finding.
You know apple got.
The store unfairly in in New York city's Grand Central station.
Or this business you know paid off this person who -- in that in the case of this investigation that this.
That holder isn't playing fair I just.
I really think Americans are kind of fed up with us and I think that's a good thing renovate OS might pitch for the.
That was that's very Christians object code red -- than we've ever seen Alexis or is it.
But I mean certainly a story like this in an elevator that kind of intrigued that we live in just in our and our culture -- our movies than watching twenty for an all those sorts of things like you know I I think that Americans come to expect a certain level of not.
They don't expect transparency -- say in foreign policy and and these kinds of matters and so that they're coming to the four.
Is very important and we have to understand that there are real reasons why you know the -- majority of Americans do not.
Get every single detail what happened -- operations.
But I do agree with you on me on that larger issue of corruption I mean I think we we you know this -- decided instead it's supposed to be premised on opportunity.
In equality of opportunity and -- know we can do that if we.
Have her up speed inside.
It's more than we did that we we've -- -- into a philosophical discussion but it did seem to be living in an air more of as I scratch my head trying to figure out why.
-- every man for himself I guess that's kind of woman for the.
That's what -- kids and I think that globalization has made almost every round more competitive be everyone's competing for dollars that are -- -- in other fields like.
Even the non for profit world and I just think there's this increased tendency to cheat I -- I don't remember and I've gone back.
A million times and looked at polls going back 4050 years to look at American attitudes.
I just never -- corruption be so high on the list of concerns so I think that's interest all right.
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