Chinese swimmer's performance raises talk of doping
Could there be a legal battle ahead?
- Duration 8:49
- Date Jul 31, 2012
Could there be a legal battle ahead?
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Kelly -- back in session on the docket today and Olympic record breaker sparking an international uproar.
China's super girl swimmers nation -- Winning the gold medal by knocking five seconds off of her own personal best shattering the world record.
And even outpacing in the last leg of the race the fastest.
The US gold medal winner.
Ryan -- -- she and her last leg at the time heat the gold medal winner got his last leg of the race.
Now US coach is calling the sixteen year old -- performance unbelievable.
And disturbing calling for an investigation.
Saying not only is doping a possibility.
But charging that the Chinese may be genetically modifying their athletes.
The international Olympics committee coming to she -- defense.
Calling the claims nothing more than sour grapes.
Joining me now Joey Jackson former prosecutor now defense attorney and Julia morrow who is also a former prosecutor now defense -- Panel welcome so this is getting.
Kind of ugly as that that this man John Leonard is the US executive director of the world swimming coaches association.
Calls an unbelievable disturbing wants an investigation into the Chinese saying they could be using.
Genetic manipulation -- She's a freak of nature comes -- that a couple of things that concerns me about this mega the first of the facts the second has the history and let's -- with the facts -- When you have a swimmer who swimming five seconds better than how personal best.
That -- the second place winner by three seconds that outpace is that male winner missed a lot the buy it always.
I mean in the last fifty meters of the race it calls into question whether or not that is simply training him and I just want to be clear.
It in the event that she is indeed it has won this on her own her merits I wanna take nothing away but it raises some skepticism and that you Macs that -- and what they history here you look at 1994 in Rome.
And the issue that was had subsequently with these seven Chinese swimmers -- have -- war.
Later found to be doping you look at 1998 in part same thing with Chinese athletes more recently in 20082009.
And then past June where there were indications of cheating it raises serious concern.
-- that's that that's the problem for the Chinese -- they had a stellar history of no cheating.
And it will be more likely to believe that this girl achieve this on her own merit but they do not have a clean history.
And there is a question about whether this girls gone through the Chinese swimming mill.
Which may or may not include.
Well you know -- and honestly I think that's really unfair to accuse a sixteen year old girl.
Who has worked so hard since she was a little kid to being competitive swimming.
And to just accused her of cheating and being on drugs and doping and now going so far through accuse her of being genetically engineered.
I mean -- they injecting shark DNA in -- over in China.
I mean these allegations are ridiculous.
She's awesome she's a physical power house.
She's got -- human flippers for feet matching -- -- and a half and she's only 58.
She rocked that race she won.
There's no evidence that she did anything wrong and just because she beat a man a lock the -- all of a sudden there's a there's suspicion here because she beat a man give me a break.
Give the girl her props.
She won -- this is all speculation I hope -- is right now.
Part of the problem is that the Chinese to I mean there there's it's all over the news about what it's like it.
Young girl shows any sort of athletic promised in China.
Let's just say.
That's not what you want to have happen because they they they wind up in these you know programs.
Run by the Chinese Government better just.
Rudolph brutal according to the reports in the pictures -- which we were allowed to show.
Are really ugly but they put these girls throw and voicemail.
But I want to talk about this allegation of genetic engineering.
And that brings us to our expert witness doctor Marc Siegel who's a member of our Fox News -- eighteen.
And professor and what use link on medical center doctor what what what sort of genetic engineering is possible.
Make your first of all I wanna talk about presumed innocent here too I also think you know because she's -- a girl rather than a boy.
-- this is somewhat sexist and I think all of these resumptions.
Yes doping could be involved but they can also test -- for steroids and they well to that question to ask always lagged a drug that.
Absolutely well but I also think medically that -- any woman is capable of doing what any man can do so I have to tell you medically -- -- -- physiologically.
I think this is possible.
Now the other point you bring it out about genetic engineering.
I think that this is still science fiction we've seen in mice several studies that have shown that this is possible.
You could you now Alter amounts.
To run through a -- in a much faster way and compete maybe even swim.
But we're not up to doing it and how jet -- idea how would you do it well it's nice and another game or you manipulated -- to make a very powerful protein that stimulate some muscle all of that.
Is under investigation but it's very early and we're not seeing that.
In swimmers that's pie in the sky we're -- -- in my swimming we're not -- in in humans yet I.
MI for a second -- -- eight bit -- means I don't know how to go about proving that in this case but they do -- we have drug test of these athletes.
And if you win a medal they automatically test.
Date they do and listen -- I'm I'm with you in terms of if she won it fair and square that it's a beautiful thing however there's a reason for palm performance enhancing drugs and that is they enhance performance that's why they test for it.
That's why -- -- people take it because it gives them an edge and the real concern here it's not that she's a woman it's what she was able to do.
Usually steps in competition net incremental we all -- improve but we -- would improve slightly when you beat your own best buy five seconds does it not doctor call into question whether or not you're taking something or doing something that might give you.
I can't and it -- yeah I think he's run a government not on this it does call into question that you supposedly has very -- muscles this question is there are but I still say presumed innocent.
You know this is a question is why can't I be able to do that but I.
-- we gonna get her chance to rehabilitate the slammer with doctor Siegel right after this break.
Julia -- he wanted to dish out of the doctor.
Yes thank you hi doctor.
Toronto are my understanding that -- out.
It's my understanding that the first five finishers in any event are tested immediately when they finish while they're still out the venue.
And if in fact that is the case is there any drug out there that you not love.
-- performing enhance performance enhancing drug that -- that -- kind of take then.
That at -- early -- or hurt the event would not have been detected and if so.
What is the World Anti Doping Agency doing and why aren't -- on top of their game.
I have to hear you very technical answer to that -- goes in the opposite to your question probably human growth hormone is something that she -- taken that wouldn't come up right away but in fact anabolic steroids probably would and that's what everybody's thinking but I want to emphasize that I also believe that physiologically it is possible.
-- rigorous training for this young woman to have performed at this level without any any doping.
And I actually think that that's what's gonna come out here I think we're way too cynical and we want to presume all the worse things she could just be a tremendous athlete.
Yeah alive and I think it's come up mostly because of the Chinese history not necessarily because no -- believes that a young girl could accomplish such an amazing feat.
But I want to ask you -- because there's that there's a terrible history.
In particular in swimming what they do a certain countries -- to their athletes and there's a story of an east German woman named Petra Schneider.
Who astonish the world in 1980 movement swimming that 400 meters and just killed it and sure -- -- leader came out what her country had done to her.
They just -- in doing into a little swimming factory -- genetically.
Messed with her in terms of steroid injections and so on changed her -- change your whole life.
She actually when asked to have her records expunged because when she became adults -- so horrified by what happened.
Given the way China is run is there any way we'll ever get the truth about this young at.
Listen I'm hopeful that what people wrote people like doctor Siegel and others who have as medical training and his background it would be if there were drugs here they would be able to be detected and it will be discovered once and for all what if -- won legitimately.
What to answer her court critics' questions as to whether or not he cheated.
That's the critical question Wii is more his -- -- evidence if she won fair and square.
-- you if she didn't it's problematic and I'm I'm hopeful maggot that will be able to -- that determining.
-- Listen if she did it she did it without cheating -- to her panel thank you also my.