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And welcome to FOX News Sunday panel plus with -- -- also Joseph -- -- Rollins and Kirsten Powers and you know why not everybody else is doing that.
We're gonna talk about possible vice presidential choices who.
And when and is only one person on this group who is actually been there with a presidential candidate.
And -- involved and that's a let's start with -- -- Ed Rollins.
Your thoughts first of all give us a sense of what goes on in it in a campaign with the candidate as are sitting there trying to make a vice president.
If you have Beth Myers has been his former chief of staff and campaign managers a very thorough extraordinary woman.
Person and she basically isn't charges process.
The one thing is that the Soviet very thorough process normal say this was a quick.
And dirty and then that -- sort of added I assume she in about three other people -- the only ones that know the final.
People are people talk about Pawlenty and Portman now -- the two finalists.
If I was making the choice I would pick rubio who obviously had said that before who I think helps them win Florida you know -- forty you know when the game.
And and and you know it seems to me.
That to some degree this is not just a calculation.
About the candidates it's also calculation about where you stand politically.
A port in Europe Poletti is a safer choice which is basically a first do no harm -- -- -- rubio is a somewhat bolder choice that says I'm a needle.
A little more help from the bottom of the ticket I think -- this close.
-- -- need little help and I think at the end of the day not gotten any waste based form casting aspersions -- his -- or Portman who both would be qualified to be president.
Which is the ultimate situation need to -- but I think at this point in time to go in Florida who went someplace that you don't archer of him.
And do you think because that the conventional wisdom is always they really don't make that much of a difference people vote for the top of the ticket do you think rubio.
Could make the difference between winning and losing -- Florida.
I think he basically has an extraordinary talent -- you can also use him in the Hispanic community around the country have to do that he's -- -- just recently had a big big victory.
We could -- incoming governor and basically in a third candidate -- the primary.
And I had a big victory.
And I think has shown himself to be -- great candidate.
You know a few weeks ago I would have agreed -- that I think rubio would be the right pick or something out of the ordinary but the problem you guy.
The -- -- you know he's really start to slip off the map and in the midwestern states mean Wisconsin Michigan Ohio I know people are gonna contest that and what I'm saying.
But he is really slipping in the midwest right now if he loses all those states.
And wins Florida it won't.
It won't Dominica he'll lose kill his -- sellers -- saying.
So I'm starting to get to yeah I think he may need to pick a midwesterner like -- -- or where Portman who I think are worrying and more of the same and all the things that you did they -- yet I'm -- conflict about this I think he needs to pick somebody out of box.
Some is gonna pull -- everything is strong son who -- plaza where last election as in the midwest and heat right so there may be added that may be the pick that you need to do shape the race up -- -- midwesterner review that can help heal some of the -- the arm I think -- hurt Amylin Bain and taxes and other things in the midwest right now I can't.
I think what he needs more than focusing on our region are -- -- -- is going to be a net plus to him everywhere.
And you are now hearing this argument out in the conservative world that.
One of the ways you do -- is that you tapping into the new young right wing on the the Conservative Party.
And that includes people like rubio and Michael Ryan and one of them the benefits of that as well as not just that.
Romney who doesn't necessarily have that.
And so reputation is big thinker you you -- of that captain of the enthusiasm Tea Party grassroots.
But you also in a way you inoculate yourself a little bit from the whole bush era argument that.
Team Obama's making you say these are the guys who put that aside themselves and I'm with them.
-- -- pushed back on Ryan.
You know the plaza Paul Ryan is he's brilliant he has put out this whole plan.
Four a budget -- you deal with with spending and how you deal with reducing the deficit that negative as he's put -- assault plan.
That has a lot of land mines and -- about Medicare and Medicaid and now -- people say well you know he already owns the Ryan plan but Romney does because he's endorsed it but it's different when Ryan is right there on the podium.
The Republicans are beyond that boat okay and they are going to get beat up by the Democrats whether or not they embrace it now and defend -- and go out there and talk about it and sell people on our whether or not they -- and run he got some morons this just gonna make it worse and you've seen that in.
Primary races around the country to if you've had candidates that they.
Said they were for the Ryan plan -- -- wanna talk about in in their primary races are special elections they were usually the candidates.
So who better to defend the Ryan plan than Paul -- that's one way of looking at it but here's -- Conservatives are gonna vote for Mitt Romney so the idea that he needs somebody so energized the base I just -- I don't actually buy into that unless it was somebody that would energize the base without any downside.
And I you know and and considering how cautious he is it's really hard to imagine him.
Choosing somebody just energized because the base especially after what happened with their talent and I'm not -- Marco Rubio served on the that sort of the same dynamic.
I would be more inclined to say it did do no harm.
Go with the Rob Portman or somebody like that or are you know -- Pawlenty.
Because I just think that there is -- can be a real downside when you go outside the box people.
Okay and one last thing going down the road we'll -- -- and we'll start with you.
It tomorrow three weeks till the convention starts in Tampa when -- announces.
It depends on who he's announcing but I would say he probably does that apply to how much he's trying to really -- if it's a really exciting one and then I think you want it's time it in a way to maybe do it at the very beginning of the convention and and create a really exciting convention if it's somebody that's available -- -- -- because it's important and he could do it.
You know on the next couple weeks or -- I would do it next week -- -- Olympics I would take that week and start running around.
I think he's got to go full -- from here on -- he's had his vacation had his little European.
Middle East trip now it's full war.
And I think start with the that the pick and right in the convention and -- -- and and you need a little more -- so you shouldn't go around together with this person on the bus tour and all of that's actually.
-- do it tomorrow.
Change this change that the debate and start -- office thing you can with the Olympics going on he's got to do something and I really I really think the campaigns -- a lot of trouble right now and it ended in whatever they're doing.
They should announce the VP and get it in and try to right the ship can't.
I agree with and doing after the Olympics dominate the airwaves and get the country familiar with the -- and that -- -- you go into the convention you can focus on the policies and start focusing on promoting yourself and your vision for the.
That also frees up the possibility that Michael Phelps will end up thing that running back.
Had a without look at those have a great case of excitement given the fact that -- is constitutionally too young how they present but anyway.
You don't solve the -- problem.
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