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My -- -- don't like I want to welcome Michael Eisner.
Who accidentally set -- the lawn and fired General Mills.
In a Minnesota Michael and I guess here surprises when as viral as it went right.
I I was.
What we think and what what did you do this.
Well -- really -- trying to.
But we're just trying to take the blowtorch to some Cheerios to demonstrate -- by committee would burn a flag here do celebrities.
Maybe.
The body and -- data real body back likeness like -- -- something effigy with a.
-- an -- And what's your issue with the General Mills.
-- General Mills who was a great company they did a lot of good for Minnesota.
You know first steel rollers they were.
Bill -- -- out when they were down by the eighty years ago they have been a great bunch of people.
So just leave the lately and I mean immunity did don't ranger for two decades.
What do they do lately that spent.
What they did lately is they have turned for the worse they've become.
A bed doubles with the homosexuals and said that look we're going to.
-- supports gay marriages and that's to the downplaying of real marriages.
So because.
Blaming the -- -- real -- the American.
Of course if -- your marriage in jeopardy because of gay marriage -- so how is it to the -- of real merit.
We come from of the -- perspective.
And in the Bible it was bush.
Got -- joined together men and women but nobody -- apart and got never recognize.
Homosexual marriages and.
That I haven't had everybody.
Subscribe to your particular religion relive and a society that's a secular society when we are free to worship or not worship as we please.
And so though we respect that your religion.
The may be others who don't particularly agree with you -- they -- the right to exist and live as they choose to -- to right.
I agree with so do you think Jesus would have approved of and -- you teach Bible class to -- Well it got a lot of Bible.
Andy thinks -- is it would have approved of going on the long.
Of up company in there and burning something in effigy I think is who would approve of them.
Well I think those -- came into the tempo of the Jewish temple and knocked over tables and the money was flying and all kinds of animals were securing him he did -- and because he was angry with what.
The church and -- insidious thing here is that you have the right -- to go anywhere you want that you don't agree with the -- over tables and -- things if you don't happen to agree with what a particular company is -- No I don't think that I don't I had I don't have the interest and in just doing -- at random this with this specific act General Mills.
But for whatever reason he -- come out.
They -- a kid friendly family friendly.
Company they had had a stellar.
An honorable background now they've turned towards the homosexual.
Agenda.
And that the -- On more and more states have actually approve gay marriage if it's not a going to state capitals and burning stuff on their -- not at all.
Why not I mean you disapprove obviously this meant more -- more New York State.
You know Vermont Massachusetts.
Member states have now instituted the right for gays to marry that's the direction.
The country's going -- you don't have to participate obviously but.
That's a direction that freedom that's the -- that's where we're going.
Well -- that were going and so my demonstration was to stir up some right just before there's a handful that.
Two.
Make it stand for Jesus Christ and forgotten the Bible and for the things that -- -- rich -- didn't -- -- of the country originally was founded on the Bible Princeton yet.
-- -- Harvard Yale all of those have Bible -- scored.
You actually Thomas Jefferson took all the gospels out of the Bible it -- called the a miracles out of the Bible.
So I don't know what Bible you're talking about we are founded on when one of our founders actually.
Totally agree wrote the Bible.
And you know what we also got away the church of England and found in this country.
For those who don't wish to celebrate a particular religion -- have their religion at all plus our founders were -- they were not Christians the current sense of the word.
So to simply say we're -- on the Bible is very misleading hasn't.
What it -- -- -- I mean they have reached no schools whether they study -- that is the word got the Bible and by the -- Thomas Jefferson.
Studied the works of great in the -- for the first six solid months that though he -- And I wrote -- -- run version of -- we took the gospels out.
Well he took it out however he had great respect for -- -- if you read over his prayers and he didn't separate he he used to Jesus Christ.
In his prayers and he now has him as the great leader and I think yes percent of yeah.
But as we have a W about it but as we have a government.
That is supposed to be religion neutral that's what the establishment clause says and that we are free to worship as you want in this country.
And that no one's supposed to impose.
Their faith and anybody else certainly not the government.
You or anybody else you're free to worship as you want.
But simply to say that others and must observe what you observed is not what this country was founded upon.
Well it was founded on the ten commandments they -- they have those paying.
-- went into it doesn't say that in the constitution.
Well.
It was.
It was -- and if we're found on the constitution -- the ten commandments or any particular religion or the Bible why is that not stated in the constitution which is our founding.
-- -- obviously.
One have to do with the government.
And the government give that the First Amendment freedom of religion now the religion at the time was.
But freedom but freedom of religion doesn't mean we're all Protestants.
You know there -- Jews -- -- even believe in in your version of the Bible there atheist who were free to worship or not -- -- -- they -- we have more Muslims coming -- this country they're free to worship as they choose.
If you're saying you don't like what a country does the company does does doesn't fit your particular religion and -- to go and burn something on their property you're trying to impose your faith.
Your belief on others which is not -- our country was found.
Well I've had responded -- have freedom of expression just like everybody and -- them expressing need to that is an expression to.
Burn some Cheerios is that too much for you -- you.
-- but I know that -- could burn on your property but you'll you do burning and and somebody else's property and look what happened you wanna burning their property.
Well it's pretty hard -- were in a wet lawn I mean maybe.
Or maybe you should go on but you're going on somebody else's rain here in minute you're going on somebody else's -- to do it -- ask -- -- -- -- on why would you know.
If you have a right to go to somebody else's property.
And -- Well I have a right if you stand up.
For the lord Jesus -- image.
But -- somebody else's property.
But it is what -- nominee and honestly did you ever did -- think that men maybe I should do this on property that's not my own property.
I don't think that because there's public -- through their property and people take pictures of themselves in front of that.
Building right -- this several buildings that I am very familiar with the territory.
They have -- people coming through there all the time standing of visitors than they have all kinds of people -- -- -- that's a good argument for maybe some places.
That.
So by objected to your point of view and I go to your lawn and -- -- Certainly -- would you object would you have me thrown out we have me arrested.
Know quite what so -- came to your property and wanted to burn.
Something that may be you to make a statement about you.
But you worked at a real estate company maybe I would take a brochure be real estate company in Bernard on your line is I don't believe in what your company stands for I can come to your line -- -- I would -- -- for sure.
Okay -- you know when we preach on -- I have had people burn bibles in front of me I great -- flyers.
A lot of this students come up they -- the care of the stuff that you wanted to -- them.
I put out my point of view I wanna listen to yours do by the way I wanna give you the same time -- -- give me and I think that that.
Let's -- free speech that's fine but your.
Burning something and somebody else's property we you'd damaged their problem as they try to come after you pay for any damages or anything I don't think I don't think it any damage there.
I see and if there were would you willingly pay and -- Now I'm sandy did you lose your job over this.
Well right now that the licenses in limbo I got called right away thing it's going back to the state that I got another cultivate thing.
We're going to reassess.
Seventy had a real estate license as an independent contract he worked at a realistic country company and they have.
You have you have your license basically hung with another company.
Bryant so -- -- you had to do all over again would you would you do this still would you do it again.
Absolutely.
So we know that you've given my that this thing wasn't planned.
They have you know this Cheerios -- on the ground we didn't know that I had done it here at the house.
And it seemed to work fine.
It didn't work right there it was a fluke a blooper.
And hand it went viral.
And if it is true that I wanna put -- kids that hey let's go ahead and and I don't wanna do it yes but couldn't get in that we put her dad and that would happen.
Now though -- did at this -- -- -- it -- the end of the video.
-- are you saying let's go let's get out of here are you telling your son to get that here you all of you just trying to get out that you're trying to leave the scene as quickly as possible right.
Yeah well we had -- thing and you know it was that belief.
Well when she saw that huge set fire to their property wanted to get out of there.
That it would I -- -- -- prior to that I like it that it pretty hard to.
A burning green -- blog with them cheerio.
But it what but it was in a while it was earnings erosion but no it you can see in the video -- lawn was burning.
The -- without -- It didn't let them a lot of action with the -- burning.
-- the -- is actually burning in the video.
Okay well but it is it not I -- there and you weren't so wouldn't we have a difference of opinion about that.
Limit your you were stamping and that you actually stamping -- on the -- trying to -- the fire and -- -- trying to put out cherry.
No you actually stamping that the grass trying to get the fire deal and then you well into the player of the -- -- -- with a player.
Wealthy but this -- the video and judge for themselves and in -- didn't.
That's what you've done it here I agree with that and then I don't I was actually on the scene doing it it actually thought what was going.
So what -- you stamping out.
But -- you on the box stamping the box out but not the launch of the box was on the lawn and burning -- the -- itself was not -- That's correct.
And now you got it right all right -- installation of a new feature -- Lewis and I thank you for your time.
It by the way you we've got a second video coming out real soon and you know I know I -- like conduct in the first -- -- when it's going to be and that will be in the second.
I'd -- actually talked about why.
The homosexuals.
Are attracted to cheerio.
Can play well with that you have -- Some of flapping in the backgrounds and never -- -- is very funny because they already know what the answer it all right Michael thanks for your time sir thank you do you have a great night and you as well.
