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Does Biden help or hurt Democratic ticket?

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    Debate over VP's controversial remarks

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Help or hurt Angela McGlowan is a Fox News political analyst Julian Epstein is a democratic campaign consultant.

And former legal counsel for the House Judiciary Committee let's get a fair and balanced debate underway.

Julian you heard the advice there from Sarah Palin.

I'm sure you as a Democrat are ready to have run out take it right.

I don't think anybody's taking it seriously look I think what Biden's that I wouldn't -- use the language but.

He was simply using a metaphor it's always dangerous when you take a metaphor to literally.

He was using them out of -- to say that Romney's plan to basically eliminate.

Much of the oversight.

On the -- in the financial community that was -- know was necessary after the debacle.

And 2008.

Would be very bad for most people in this country and that's simply the point he was making.

And you know if you wanna get into this question -- whether -- was race -- or not.

There are lots of examples that we can point to on the other side the constant questioning on the president's legitimacy of his birth certificate.

The reference to the food stamp president there's lots of things that aren't metaphors that are -- that are said on on -- on the conservative side that are not metaphors.

They're meant.

To be racially coded language.

And these are things if you really -- -- have an -- an objection or deception about whether somebody's trying to insert in a kind of in an underhanded way race into the -- racial issues in this election we can have that debate.

All right go ahead Angela Biden is not a liability to Obama that has Democrats for decades have been using these bamboo ceiling politics.

To try and emotions of action unity and Dubai both sides have used metaphors you have Romney saying that he wants and -- -- economy.

But -- having Biden to -- not only African American audience.

Say that he debt basically that Republicans want -- print job back and change was absolutely.

Insults.

Now Sarah Palin.

And the first black governor of Virginia both agreed that Hillary Clinton would probably be better by the Obama -- -- Which Biden making these gaps but it ended today liberals could use.

Base baiting class warfare even warn women to use abacus CD -- -- -- Mac community and -- -- need to get back to the issues.

Well what they gonna do to -- a better America.

Julian wasn't above the phrasing and the use of you all that that sort of mated so destructive when when the vice president use that phrase.

I think a lot of people use that you all point event and in very different communities but still I think again as I said.

I did -- is a pretty folksy guy but I.

If you do in front of the south and to go to Virginia get so -- -- black army hasn't changed his cadence.

But this is nothing you had attorney general.

-- to each other let's -- -- each other and to what I I think the point the point that I was gonna make is that I I think that.

As I said it's not exactly the language that I would have used and I think.

I think that.

You'll probably a reflection he could have use of the language I don't think the Obama campaign is giving any thought to replacing Biden I think this is a a false issue I think this is an issue that's being stirred up by conservatives largely because there's lots of misgivings about the Ryan -- And has Medicaid program Medicare proposals and budget proposals and I think this is an attempt to try to distract from -- all the controversy around that.

But you know again I think if you want to get into a discussion about -- look there's a GOP -- -- out right now gently and using.

That's accusing.

President Obama practicing black racism.

That's a Republican -- -- super pac that's being done.

You've never seen a president United States that has been interrupted in the middle of a Rose Garden.

Presentation viral.

Porter mr.

-- there are -- -- their ears of Democrats drink yeah let's let's let's give Angela one last chance to respond the the attorney general recently spoke before.

Conventional black clergy where he set the republicans' plan -- but -- -- you lots.

We'll take -- back to Jim probably Bill Clinton was at a fund raiser here in New York that -- this same fate of the vote ideologues would take it back the poll tax.

In my community especially coming from Mississippi this civil rights movement.

And that's part of that history was pretty bad pretty painful labor was pretty bad pretty painful so to compare Republicans.

To slave masters putting -- back in chains.

It's insulting and it just shows and demonstrates that the Obama -- is very desperate because they can't stand on the issues.

Aren't yet you and I think in person voter ID laws we'll have a disproportionate effect an African Americans and Hispanics and.

Jillian leaking -- and get our licenses state IDs just like anybody else -- -- audience are low we're gonna currently miles away from where we -- if we're gonna have to leave the discussion narrative into a side issue there.

Julian Epstein Angela McGlowan thank you.