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Undoing Obama Medicare cuts may backfire on Romney

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    Emily Baker, T.J. McCormack, and Jehmu Greene tackle the issue

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-- -- -- who wins this debate on Medicare and why.

Well it Romney Ryan plan.

Goes through seniors.

And I think the American people lives.

No one wins but what is so shocking about the Romney campaign.

Is they they make decisions about -- -- on the ticket.

He has a plan that has basically taken into account the same amount of savings.

In the Medicare plan as president Obama's and now they're trying to totally flipped the script which they bold face lie and say that.

Well it's cuts instead of savings that it actually is going to affect benefits is still of lowering the cost.

First service providers and I think anyone who really looks at this as -- -- substantive way.

Couldn't see straight through that apple -- back from -- TJ Romney Ryan that plan old cannot come makes a miserable place -- well.

-- -- -- -- -- And also would not talk about the Ryan plan Ryan has signed on to the Romney ticket this is about who this is about Romney's plan -- is so it has signed on he's he's I don't know why -- Fleming is I have.

You know Clinton -- But the thing is I know what I don't.

What what is plan is to help.

Go back to the hospitals and nursing homes in the service for writers and say.

I know we cut a deal to actually save costs and how much we're paying you but we're gonna get you back that money.

And we thought.

-- an issue is -- -- Full governor -- and I'm thinking in particular he needs to win Florida to win the presidency lot of people -- a heck of a lot of that medicate them now.

An easy losing this debate.

I think it's -- debate because we get into scare tactics of some people talking about they're going to you got the system is seniors are gonna come off the rolls.

Obama's plan.

Basically he pandered to the seniors he knows he needs their vote so he's winning into the health care providers saying we don't we're not gonna -- seniors.

He's doing -- because it's politically you know because it's.

From a political.

Standpoint.

You know a risky decisions dancing keep their vote and then he's gonna go back in their later his Obama's plan is let me have another four years to keep working on -- yet another source.

Yeah.

That his plan is not actually cut benefits to seniors and what waits is the exact opposite.

Of the allied that is being put forth by the Romney campaign and all of this circuits and keep going back.

Let's say 719.

Billion songs at seven elevenths on first -- and they get them.

Number correct the millionaire billionaire I don't think we'll be thrown around those numbers but so well they Eric.

It's basically saying that savings is a bad thing.

When did that happen when I 5%.

TJ it's it's it's short term it which is which is part of problem but you know I -- it into into the Florida.

Florida to me is fascinating this time around because I think a lot of those Gold Coast seniors are very very aware of the fact that this has been the slowest.

Recovery.

In decades.

And a lot of Gold Coast seniors.

I don't think a lot of really actually do you purely dig Barack Obama they wanted to be a part of history -- -- wait.

They've seen what happened -- which is very little.

And over the course these last four years they've had to send a lot of checks up north there's a lot of those who don't northeast based seniors.

Who have had to hell bound their families their kids in their grandkids stay in their homes has been libel lay ups backup.

So to me it's it's it's -- kind of a wild card.

Jeb Bush -- not been out there yet -- Barack rubio has not been out there I think Florida goes Romney huge because a lot of those seniors down at the very Smart listen that's also let's not get get off this this notion that every single senior and America lives and humble eating cat food to -- -- -- These there are a lot of -- were very been very very Smart with their money and -- seen a lot of their tax I was gone wrong there are.

We got a lot of our viewers weighing in on this hit -- McCain says Medicare will fail unless something is done.

But the way that the Obama campaign is going to about talking about is that playing the blame game once again at that point I feel to win the debate -- around.

Obama will singing dolls on the stage to continue to keep the eyes away from what it's really.

Happening.

The Obama takes 700 billion savings -- can you read this as Obama takes it out of Medicare Romney -- -- there to extend its life.

Does does anybody really know the truth of the opt out once either these candidates to get into the.

How could not I think what you can -- -- is Obama has had three and a half years to show what he would.

Hat would do you Romney has got a plan -- there is -- detailed enough I don't think snap.

I will some of Ryan's proposals come back in there I think they might because he's put a lot of thought into it too but right now it's looking at winning -- fifty SpinRite.

-- speeds and Ryan speaks at certain bid has a certain amount of logic behind Ryan's plan.

A that I like in terms of the Elliott couldn't supply game somebody -- somebody like myself the option.

To -- to get -- -- get out didn't somebody if you're somebody like me the option of an archer or CNN.

The.

Old -- -- plant at the end you look at look at what throw adventure program.

Well it changes Medicare as we know I can't speak to in any way put retirement security.

When you look it.

Medicare -- -- look at social security and how it gets taken millions of seniors.

Also the roles of poverty when he's -- program's first payment.

We -- seniors who have worked their entire lives who contributed to the country who once they stopped working.

We're we're leaving it.

Abject -- and it doesn't affect any of them quite a second.

-- to try to reverse and roll back those social safety net is dangerous to this country today.

I think he's just yeah.

I was -- I.

I don't hardly any details -- I don't think our youngest newest citizens.

Are going to basically rejects the idea that their generation believes and that.

We all should rise together and we -- help each other -- that reject that for Ryan's plan either because.

And really unlike like this LCD is -- on on don't know that chat page she is sorry people.

Nobody saving anything instead of you left pocket the money comes out of your right pocket there's some truth to that -- There is treatment that and I think that's what we get out with what Obama's -- and what the Romney campaign is saying.

There is just a difference.

Guessing -- -- means you can call it cut.

But it's still no I was glad now that two things mean different things in my life so hospitals -- not the service providers and he said.

But this same services you're going to get paid last through those savings -- it's like every 20% off sale.

When you go in and you -- contrasts for a cheaper price you're still getting the same does.

Written into the -- is very specifically that benefits will not be affected.

But what is the Romney campaign saying they're saying the complete opposite and that lacks the character and integrity that I think anyone will want to see an oppressed.

He had a couple of our other viewers -- -- saying why can't we change Medicare as we know that as we know -- it's going bankrupt Taylor -- -- meant much the same thing.

What's wrong with changing Medicare as we know it's on -- fast track to becoming bankrupt.

People upset Medicare as you know it is already Gomes says -- Yost.

What what she doesn't get is it's just not financially sustainable look.

I'm not truly is -- true.

But you know what a whole lot of would you lose gonna say is true few -- are those times when I.

Oh well in terms of in terms of you know there are hurt -- helping out.

Barry and and and and his side I think she's not gonna let -- -- my point is is that so much of this.

Is admittedly -- out of my pay grade there is so much of it that is absolutely robbing Peter to pay Paul so I think.

I could just comment there's gonna have some amount of validity to it like that that when you read coming out of that the last conversation we said you know she's at it nothing's really gonna change the going to be -- formula -- -- -- right -- it's true.

That's why would -- one poor Brian talks but individualism vs collected -- and this election now begin about two ideology he's bright.

I know that my -- that I can even think about.

2030 years from now right now we are doing everything we -- to pay -- 16100.

All of them.

-- -- -- Small.

Is that we have everything on the individualism side of this okay we employ people we employ it we are small business that wants to -- but he's scared to death of going to know what that means for got down to -- it.

Ted Leo LA says T says it left quickly get TJ some oxygen yeah.

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