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Vice president factor in 2012 race

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Called the audible or continuing the talk about Medicare and the campaign trail one was making the case about Paul Ryan's budget.

Mitt Romney was out today talking with a white board about how his plan for Medicare has no change.

To Medicare traditional Medicare now does not affect anyone.

As far as Medicare goes Steve there's a lot of democratic talking points about Paul Ryan's plan.

And -- seniors would have to pay more and the presence even using that on stuff like that effect.

We'll see if it's effective but I don't think it's true I mean look the way the Paul Ryan's plan works is it's a plan of competitive bidding and premium support so insurance companies will make offers -- say we can we can provide this coverage for X amount of dollars.

The second lowest bid among those offers will be chosen so there will always be an op opportunity to spend the last sort of choose the plan.

That costs less so ultimately it's not the case that seniors are going to have to pay 6400 dollars more and I'll just say that the one critic.

It's -- crucial part I guess is that we're.

Now on the weeds of the Paul Ryan plan that is no longer -- -- I mean it's essentially passed the house yet it's not going anywhere and Mitt Romney.

Is not running on it right -- no nobody is asking what -- Joseph Biden plan for Medicare performance by the way.

The only reason we're talking up Paul -- -- present a putt for -- -- it is usually because when the president gets on the stump and says seniors -- pay 6400 dollars more.

That's not true there's Romney plan there's your -- there's one there's one key distinction between the Romney.

Plan and the Ryan plan and that in the big distinction is Paul Ryan.

Preserves the cuts and then send them back into Medicare buy.

Into the Medicare trust fund Mitt Romney eliminates the cuts he doesn't want the cuts he said that he doesn't want to cut so there's a difference between the Ryan plan and the Romney plan and at this point.

Mitt Romney -- -- candidate.

His plan went.

Right so the difference here is that Mitt Romney embraced the Ryan budget this is a budget that passed the house represented it represents the Republican -- and wisdom.

As to the best way to proceed.

Mitt Romney chose this man as his vice president and so people in coming to know Paul Ryan most Americans don't know mr.

Ryan coming -- don't think this is the guy.

That was going to absolutely savage Medicare is that who.

Mitt Romney says it's his choice and that's why we're having this conversation another you're exactly right but I guess not run England.

Obama Obama -- Obama opposed the Iraq War he made is that as his number two.

A guy who supported the Iraq War does that mean that Obama then reversed his position on the Iraq War.

Know that they take its position on the Iraq -- in 2008 was.

Obama's he's in charge he's ignited his position and the story amended that's right -- President Obama didn't absorb Vice President Biden split Iraq into three parts not -- -- when he was on the campaign trail to Charles when I wanna get to one more point -- about the vice president.

Here is the question today from Ed Henry to.

-- -- Since the president has given the -- confidence you've defended the vice president repeatedly.

To settle it once and for all all the speculation this particular Obama -- I think.

-- -- -- And that was settled a long long time ago and while I appreciate and I had great admiration or respect for in a long relationship with Senator John McCain.

The one place I would not go for advice on vice presidential running mates is the Senator McCain.

-- The reason they sprung up is because of a remark that.

But Biden had made a few days ago saying we are gonna going to change speaking to a mixed audience.

The problem is that Obama should and could have simply said it was a slip of the tongue it was a mistake.

There's a little extra enthusiasm but he didn't he backed him up and our nation -- an issue so sensitive I think it's a big mistake for the president.

Should have an honest about it you don't have to drop them on the ticket but he simply could have said it was a misstatement I wish he hadn't said.

The bottom line Obama Biden.

Is the ticket bumper stickers are -- No question and of course the shot was about their -- -- and here's a programming note please join Juan Williams Sunday for a special look at fixing our schools.

We'll see what's working what isn't you can see -- at 9 PM eastern time it was I get that and that's it.