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And hello again from fox and is in Washington.
What Paul Ryan joining the Republican take at the presidential campaign took on a new intensity this week.
Especially over who has the best plan to preserve Medicare.
We'll hear from a top Romney strategist and a few minutes but first.
Obama campaign senior advisor and former white house press secretary Robert Gibbs Robert welcome back to FOX News Sunday thanks for having -- Romney running night Paul Ryan campaigned in the villages retirement community with a 78 year old mother Betty yesterday.
-- -- That the Republicans want to protect Medicare.
While the president is turning it into a -- -- let's -- When I think about Medicare.
Just -- program.
It's not just abortion numbers.
It's what my mom relies on the president.
From the Medicare program to pay for the obamacare program.
Well I think if he wants to protect Medicare for his mother then he should thank first Boston thank President Obama for what he's done in the past few years.
-- stand the life of the Medicare trust -- to it helps seniors with their prescription drug costs.
To help seniors get free preventive care.
Chris what President Obama did was strengthen the Medicare beneficiary.
Did Medicare benefit.
To help Medicare beneficiaries and to extend the life of the Medicare trust fund by more than eight years okay but let's talk about the 716.
Billion dollar cut.
To Medicare because it is.
If I may you may ask the question.
That under the Obama plan Obama -- there is a 716 billion dollar cot there's a 716 billion dollar.
We found seven -- sixteen billion dollars and efficiency and savings primarily by reducing the subsidy that the government was paying to Medicare Advantage.
Through private insurance companies something that was costing Medicare.
Not saving Medicare money is it was originally designed to do but in fact.
Costing Medicare about 16% more than traditional Medicare how -- we took those subsidies out and lo and behold.
The enrollment for Medicare Advantage is actually -- this year we strengthen the benefit by adding again as I said.
Preventive services the best way to tackle health care costs is to work with seniors to make sure that we prevent illnesses rather than simply treat them once they have -- cut that that is the argument that the Obama campaign makes that the 716 billion dollars is all in cuts to providers and insurance companies and it will have no effect on benefits or services.
To the beneficiaries -- hear about it but let me let me ask my question.
-- -- -- -- Own -- -- Medicare and out of the Romney campaign says that's impossible that you can't have the same services for 716.
Billion dollars -- and let's put up -- -- -- The Medicare actuary -- They say that's 15% of Medicare providers will be unprofitable like 201925%.
Of Medicare providers will be unprofitable -- 2030.
And the Medicare actuary can look this is his quote.
In practice Medicare providers could not sustain continuing negative margins and absent legislative changes would have to would draw.
Withdraw from providing services to Medicare beneficiaries.
Merged with other provider groups -- -- substantial portions of Medicare costs.
Get -- non Medicare non -- Medicaid.
Providers in other words accordingly actually.
Patients millions of them will lose access to Medicare benefits.
If Medicare companies that are involved in the program continued doing what they're doing which is he inefficient.
Let's take currency act and he had little unemployment the actual wary eye on Medicare that at -- the actuary says.
In practice Medicare providers could not sustain.
Continuing negative margins if we -- if Medicare providers continue to do we're doing right now under the old program.
-- the -- if senior got readmitted over and over and over to the hospital -- -- same illness.
They got paid every single time the senior got emitted into the hospital want to strengthen the benefit by adding.
Preventive health care to it and trying to ensure that this -- patient gets.
Accountable care and treated before they get that -- the providers don't do it.
Then what happens is under your plan does unelected board fifteen bureaucrats come in and they decide watt.
We -- -- and out of that is that I I'm I'm I'm I'm -- -- you're.
Your characterization of and -- -- are they not and on the left are they have elected board at their medical professionals aren't either their people that we trust to make medical decisions are they elected by anyway.
Then there are not unaccountable unelected board that comes then.
And will make decisions on what their providers in the hospital I don't know because there and and and not and congress leader has devoted all upper all.
Yeah well look.
Who -- -- trying to get efficiencies out of the Medicare program.
We're trying to provide.
Some much needed enhancements to the benefits.
That Medicare beneficiaries have and most importantly we're trying to sustain.
The hospital trust fund let's let's talk about the -- If all looking described was so amazingly egregious.
Why -- not one but in two Paul Ryan budget's.
Does he never seek to roll back the so called cuts from the unelected bureaucrats that you discuss.
But what post Ed Gillespie -- that I probably I -- we're gonna cut that unless they -- part of it as he has to accept.
The current law and what's in the baseline not -- is actually not have to pick it did that's a whole.
That's what it is a budget of almost -- -- -- -- until -- the question why they don't get asked the question I -- but but I know why they don't know that I -- get to ask the questions if I mean you're you're contention is you can take 716.
Billion dollars out of Medicare.
Lot of money seven -- sixteen billion dollars and it'll have no impact on benefits are we strengthen the Medicare beneficiary who look.
Do you think they know they aren't gonna do you think the AARP would be in would have been endorsed what we did it hurt seniors.
Did you think -- pay to get you -- Medicare actuary would say that this isn't gonna have an impact upcoming.
If they say 15% of providers will be unprofitable.
Again if they if they don't change the way they currently do business.
That's what we're talking about getting greater efficiency out of Medicare.
Strengthening the Medicare beneficiary.
Again if all this was so egregious -- why did Paul Ryan's seat.
Never to undo these cuts would -- have been questioned him and I have a -- Gillespie I promise -- -- them and play good that at Africa.
On Friday -- Obama campaign manager Jim Messina offered the Romney campaign a deal released five years of tax returns.
And we won't ask for anymore.
Isn't that a distraction from the major riches of the economy and jobs and national debt and foreign policy that the president says he wants this campaign to be I don't I don't think taxes are -- -- -- a distraction from this campaign I think they're very so we're talking about -- -- Mitt Romney's personal tax return what we're not I'm not tax policy for all of America although we are talking about -- -- not -- -- you can have an argument without having his tax return well -- we.
We're gonna have that argument and we should see -- tax returns his father said you shouldn't just put out one or two years you should put out a series of tax returns twelve to thirteen years.
Mitt Romney -- run in 23 years to John McCain were about to have a very fundamentally important debate.
About the direction of tax reform in this country and I think if if Mitt Romney proposes to be president of the United States and lead us through tax reform should the American people understand.
The offshoring -- the outsourcing.
And the tax havens that he takes advantage of he in his tax return and understand how those values would govern the tax reform decisions that he might make -- president.
I think what what is really stunning Chris is that.
Look Mitt Romney is a highly educated man.
And he is clearly made.
A decision that one is in those tax returns is far more damaging to him.
Then to do what.
Every presidential candidate has done which is.
Show the American people your personal -- if he's clearly decided that it is far too damaged if the president is so interested in transparency.
As you indicate.
Why is it that he is not he's held one news conference at the White House.
This year and that was back in March more than five months ago and why is it.
That he refused to release documents to congress and invoked executive privilege.
On operation fast and -- well look let's talk about I'd had -- this situation of interviewing the president and the president let me just give you some statistics -- -- -- wouldn't get them -- in in the month of August and -- nineteen days in August the presence on thirteen local TV -- -- that -- president assignment tonight that included being -- -- -- low level that -- that included being asked what.
His favorite -- -- work out so I get to the questions and I think that's what it will have on some of the when I was eleven radio interviews.
And 55 round table interviews with fifteen print journal and I sit down with -- white house press -- -- -- -- -- I think the president the president did take a question from the white house press corps regarding the shooting that happened in Wisconsin a quick look look look Chris did.
I think the white house press trust -- of at a time in the press room.
The white house press corps has good questions but so -- local TV stations and Iowa and in Colorado in Ohio.
Who regularly get past the president questioned the notion that this president.
Not doing interviews he he is ridiculous not long ago we were answering questions.
And charges from Republican that -- Barack Obama was overexposed.
We're looking forward to our first interview of his presidency here on FOX News -- Well I I think I know that the president has spent time with Brett -- I know I believe you interviewed the president at the White House when when I was there is that correct that's.
And that's true I guy and got -- one month into his presidency not too bad.
Really well I -- it never run FOX -- Sunday -- any case and a special played it this way Vice President Biden spoke in Virginia to a crowd including a large number.
Of African Americans here's what he -- He's good -- the big banks once again right through rules.
-- staying the Wall Street.
They're gonna put you all back and shades.
Wasn't that race baiting the.
No more race baiting them when John Boehner says let's unshackled Wall Street let's unshackled big business -- I did.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Mitt Romney thinks it's okay to repeal Wall Street reform.
And let big banks on Wall Street go back to riding their own rules we know what happens that's what got us into this mess that's what happened -- mortgage backed securities went bust that's what happens when.
Millions of people lost their jobs.
That's what got us into this mess and I think Vice President Biden.
President Obama and millions of others don't want to go back to that is Joseph Biden a drag on the ticket absolutely not I'm happy to have Joseph Biden out campaigning.
Telling his story.
To the American people.
Putting in front of people the choice that's gonna happen in this election I'm happy and proud of Joseph Biden and I'm happy and proud to have him out on the trail every day one last question got a minute left this week Mitt Romney has repeatedly criticized the tone of the president's conduct.
Well this campaign much.
Take your campaign and division.
And hate back to Chicago and let us get about.
What do you make of all this talk about how angry the president.
You know Chris you -- interview your reporters that route when the president this president was in Iowa first talking about how we pass a farm bill to help farmers and ranchers that are dealing with the worst droughts.
In our history.
The next day talk about how we.
Continue to add and clean energy jobs to our economy by extending the tax cut for for -- energy the president yesterday was talking about taxes and our budget.
Nobody that's been with the president -- seen the president.
Thinks he's running anything other than.
A campaign on the issues that are important to the American people and I want -- -- I'm not gonna get lectured by Mitt Romney or anybody on the Romney campaign about the tone of this campaign this is a guy who's flown all over the country.
Saying he does he's not sure whether the president believes in America right we're auctioning off dinners -- The birth -- in chief right wing nut job Donald Trump who still questions whether or not.
The president was born in the United States of America I'm I'm happy to listens.
Charges and countercharges but the notion that we're gonna get lectured by Mitt Romney and his campaign about running a positive campaign that's a -- far too big -- Robert thank you thank you thanks for coming on and all.
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