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We're going down snake oil before.
-- -- -- -- It won't work now.
Now it's not a plan to create jobs it's not a plan to reduce our -- -- said it's not a plan to strengthen our economy it's not a planet strife in the middle class.
The -- in the selection.
President Obama to Hampshire yesterday delivering the same speech twice the economy of words I suppose slamming governor Mitt Romney's tax plan the president making those comments on the very same day.
Republican vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan rallied voters in the state of Florida he laid out -- Republican plan for Medicare saving it.
And calling out the president's own record on the program take a listen this.
Should not be used as a pig you Medicare should be the promise that it made to our current seniors period end of story.
Is what Mitt Romney and I will do.
We will ended the raid of Medicare.
We will restore the promise of this program.
And we will make sure.
That this board of bureaucrats will not -- of my mom's health care or your mom's health care.
How does bring in our campaign insiders -- absolutely as a former Republican congressman -- New -- packet dale Fox News contributor.
Former pollster for president Jimmy Carter Doug Shawn joins -- -- too.
It's a Fox News contributor and former pollster for Bill Clinton.
Congressman a -- The reference there they heard from -- you we're gonna stop.
Medicare being looted is a piggy bank for Obama care.
-- a clear reference to the president's.
Diverting seven and sixteen billion dollars from Medicare to Obama care.
When Democrats were so gleeful at the pick of -- they thought they were gonna win on Medicare did they -- -- that argument.
-- I think the jury's still out on the Ryan pick I think it's one week in August we got to wait a little bit but I think this past week the first week of this -- it.
The Republicans were unified every person on every show.
Had the same message of the 716.
Linked up to the very unpopular obamacare so for once I think the three of us would agree that he.
They -- but he Romney ticket.
Communications strategy was pretty good for a week when one pat asks what's the president's plan for saving Medicare his own Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner said.
To congress quote.
We don't have a definitive solution.
Of the problem.
Well he you know I thought last week when fox -- -- children.
You know where he was talking at the Republican conference -- I we shouldn't demonize people we should work together on this.
Or when he said yes I will be to -- anything that would rolls back the 719 good.
Their plan -- on the offense on this on the attack they don't have a plan.
In that the Republicans this week did something -- Johnson which is very important.
Date for the first time go on the offensive but he started to move this issue.
Which -- a better view from medic here to obamacare since.
The Supreme Court decision handed them this -- -- we've talked probably show Republicans have abandon -- like crazy now they're backed Obama care.
You know Doug Axelrod senior advisor for the -- Obama campaign -- offices might 85 year old dads can be kicked off Medicare from these elected.
That's not true into the Ryan Medicare plan anybody over 55 is not affected.
Right but what the Obama campaign believes is if they have the fight over Medicare.
Ultimately they can fight to a draw whether they tell the truth.
Strictly speaking are not in other -- lying works well it works especially when you have 60% negative ratings on jobs of the economy Greg.
And the run the Romney campaign.
What the Obama campaign is talking about the economy that use the big challenge right now is that whether Vegas I said it would two weeks aboard and we wouldn't -- was picked.
Can they move this issue too big ground to the super issue of jobs in the economy that's the one that matters with.
And into the debt breaking the country and bank bring the country to bankruptcy that obamacare that's the that's the triple header.
You know what's interesting is premium support.
Actually came from Democrats Bill Clinton if you remember -- do is the chairman it is commission came up with premium to which individual -- -- the individual mandate came from the American enterprise institute and the Republicans want to put the pull up here is the Rasmussen poll.
Question which -- seniors more war.
As to the future of Medicare look at yes.
President Obama's health care law 54%.
Paul Ryan's Medicare proposal 34% what do you make of that done well.
Couple things and -- been talking about this.
The key to this election for the Republicans.
Is to -- Medicare.
To a referendum on Obama -- -- the point that we made I think pat should speak to it is that they have to go beyond.
Medicare and obamacare to the economy.
But if they can develop a narrative on this.
And this range of issues that polls suggest have an opportunity yes because the other evil we saw that although we showed seniors but overall.
It was almost a ten point margin say.
Obama care for all -- what what was -- same thing in Wisconsin.
Obamacare -- always been a more serious issue and that links to the issue of bankrupting the country.
And also what it's doing to the economy that's where they have to get to that -- -- get to that large ground and that's going to be that's.
That's of the convention the -- become so there without doing that right by the -- -- -- pro -- one I agree with pat and Doug today.
The big question is can they make in a simple one sentence argument.
We have to fix the debt problem in order to fix the national economy we're not gonna get jobs back until we fix the federal budget but.
From team Obama is the second whammy on senior citizens which is the fact that congressman Ryan used to be four.
Of Social Security that's coming and that's.
Aimed at scaring -- -- skip over.
The sound -- we're gonna play wanna go forward for the purple strategies poll we can put that up here is as the recent poll in several key key swing states.
Showing Mitt Romney is now leading in Florida Ohio and -- Virginia albeit narrowly it's within the -- her -- connecting Colorado.
Does the momentum appear to be.
These polls and some of the national polls show a couple of points of movement but great we won't know -- this week.
When things settle down whether there's real momentum in the direction of congressman Ryan and governor Romney or whether this is a temporary black lab who we put that pack could attack or -- -- I wanna make a point here that's very important.
Look at each of those states in every case here.
We are dealing with lots it would -- fair number of voters.
War undecided jerk and that is where this is still going eight to 10% in some cases -- -- more or less.
But fact is that's what's that that's what's at stake right now it's all over -- the map a lot there that the this movement of -- But something is in motion.
Two weeks ago Romney was losing the election.
-- choice and Ryan if nothing else gave him made him more energetic with the campaign more -- We will see what it plays out let the dangers -- if they leave this issue let's not forget this point.
If this becomes election only on -- Medicare.
That I like Obama's chances.
A lot -- and I think that's right about yeah that's absolutely.
The case are put up the real clear politics.
This is the electoral map right here because.
After all folks that's what it really comes down to how many states you win how many electoral votes you get you gonna have 270.
Analyze this map for us I I think it is.
If if my recollection is correct -- 231 to 191.
For President Obama that's right bottom line.
But Wisconsin's now -- Wisconsin's in play great my own opinion my colleagues may disagree.
I think that that's temporary it's tied.
They that they need Wisconsin even if they pick up Florida Ohio.
North Carolina and Virginia that's not enough for governor Romney to win a -- who wins.
New Hampshire -- warned about tonight got to take a quick break gentlemen.
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