Golden Nugget casino sues gamblers for $1.5M
Legal panel weighs in on the case
- Duration 7:40
- Date Aug 22, 2012
Legal panel weighs in on the case
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-- -- -- back -- session on the docket today the one point five million dollar fight.
Over -- shuffled casino cards.
It all started at the Golden Nugget casino in Atlantic City.
This scene cards.
Dealt over and over and over again to a group of folks playing baccarat.
They were winning.
On the cards 41 times in a row.
For a total of one point five million dollars say they won over and over 41 times.
Started to gather around the table convinced they were witnessing -- but they couldn't figure out how to get how the players were doing it.
Now the Golden Nugget says it knows how it happened the cards it says word defective.
Delivered from a card manufacturer.
Is -- to supposed to come shuffled and put into play with out being checked.
The casino is now suing the manufacturer.
But it's also suing the gamblers.
Saying they are not entitled to their one point five million dollars because the odds were not fair to the casino.
The players say they did nothing wrong.
And they want to cash and all this is a good case.
Joining me now former prosecutor now defense attorney -- I'd -- -- former prosecutor now defense attorney John asked bill bore.
You tell me you're representing your -- client Arthur is the casino how on earth does it claim.
It is not to blame and that.
Okay I don't want to take the -- the balloon here but.
I think it's a procedural issue that they have to sue.
The the players.
In their real suit charges against -- Jamal -- GE MA CL that's the company that they paid to deliver free shuffled cards.
That's where that's where the deep pockets -- that's the company that that didn't it's a breach of contract to the very simple.
Legal principle -- contract you to deliver something to me and you do it wrong so it.
Dell -- contracts with Intel to -- the right computer chip.
And they put the computer chip in the computer ship them out and these thousands of computer that a defective that was dealt anything wrong what Intel did something wrong.
The real lawsuit is against Intel.
But John how -- they blame this on that of that.
When the dealer could have stopped it and noticed -- -- even if he didn't on the first to get couple deals.
Deals -- -- right he.
He could -- stock and said.
The same hands have come up this same cards in that same order.
Over and over and over at what point I mean the it does stop being the card manufacturers fault them.
-- probably at hand number three -- four and I think what Arthurs really trying to say it's his client had he bogeyed eight against the players here.
And -- that three of us were sitting around a table guys in this were happening to -- They might speak of them taken out a second mortgage and go home happy OK I don't blame.
What what they did it off but at times and another interesting thing -- security team descended upon the table convinced that there was cheating on not.
See what was going on and stop it before the 41 and they wasted time.
Shaping that she hears that weren't cheating this has nothing to do with the player just everything to do that just -- -- -- kiss explained back -- does anybody here know -- -- now.
But I will tell you this I don't wanna get a little -- world talking about if we would have what we would have done.
The it just so people notes -- day in federal court actually yesterday in federal court a federal court judge has now ruled that Texas hold them.
Is a game of skill not a game of chance which -- attention degree -- still it's not just -- Two and two women at -- think the same thing lot of holds true if I was at that table out playback I probably would even realize what was going on.
Outlook -- -- something because apparently they can't betting and betting a betting and they raise their bets.
They begin had begun -- ten dollars -- hand and they started raising their at their bets to 101000 dollars at the players knew.
They were either on the role of their lives are more at some some sort of funny business of working in their favor did they have an obligation dot.
Say you know what fair is fair if -- if if you casino we're cheating us we've stopped this game.
As it turns out we're cheating you inadvertently we agree we don't deserve.
Money no obligations on the players -- -- there's sitting in front of -- slot machine in that slot machine keeps pouring out coins has no obligation there either the one tiny thing that the casino might have it that they're claiming the players.
Were putting up -- that we're beyond what the the upper limit was so -- yeah -- get the casino didn't have to take.
Aren't we don't do over because next we're gonna talk about.
The incredible behavior by the casino after the players won the money you will not believe this at its next.
So we've got an -- good running back Brad this is -- Bacharach and it's -- it's way too complicated don't blame here it's like a mixture between blackjack and craps from the sound of it OK so now get a prime you fake client has Arthur is that these played this.
Not only are they claiming you need to pay us our one point five million dollars Golden Nugget there are also claiming.
Discrimination based on their Chinese heritage and cleaning that they were abused by the casino personnel after this happened.
Being woken up in a -- without food water or an interpreter held for eight hours.
And shot up against the wall and -- that by the casino person apple.
And all of that could could cost the casino even more money if it is.
Proven to -- -- my guess is that they would.
Did conducting an investigation at that point figuring out of there was really some sort of a I'd card counting stand more pictures -- microphones in my ear plugs you about that kind of a -- There they -- -- -- you -- you know is that the allegations are completely -- that they didn't do that with anyone but these guys -- the casino players.
They do have a whole bunch of chips right now that the casino is refusing to cash -- It's right has a casino let nine of the players cash out about 560000.
Dollars with the chips.
But the other players still have -- 977000.
That had they have yet to get past the casino won't do it so they got some of the -- not the rest of the doubt.
-- you -- this point earlier there is a rule in New Jersey.
That apparently requires.
-- a state gambling regulation that requires all casino games to offer fair odds.
To both sides that's what the casinos using to go after the players to say the odds as it turns out we're not spared us the casino.
Think -- card manufacturer over there and then can they make that case it's.
I think that is way too much of the stretch again.
Liability is on the card manufacturer who didn't pre shuffle not the players so while that -- -- they did rule they have the wrong defendants -- free shuffle.
The well number one -- -- but number two -- look reality is he you know we layers of insurance companies are involved.
There's going to be the insurance there's self insured -- that did dealer makes a huge mistake like this.
They're going to be covered.
There's -- he's -- -- -- -- if they could -- a bit sad that by saying of cars where we're not shuffled can you imagine like is any wind ballot now is a casino is gonna fall back on -- -- you know in the it was the wasn't all they weren't George don't forget the eye in the -- -- -- -- I cry about all thank you panel.