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She's got my dear friend.
-- bring in the hit list on this we are joined today by bill Daley former FBI also a senior VP of control risks and Tom Ruskin.
Former NYPD detective and president of the fabulous CMP group.
Not to say the controller I I am glad that I deal with the Activision throwing around and not -- who have had a -- time -- -- -- -- serious story this this story it did so.
Talk Europe Europe -- -- let's go to you first on this and that and she calls on -- one who.
Nothing happens two days later she -- him dead in her -- -- It happens -- -- is it the police should have responded they should have done different.
Tactics they should have knocked on the door.
They sure looked in the windows.
Sometimes you know.
Because it was a cell -- had -- in her -- phone with the enhanced my 11 system they weren't -- the address I don't know everything she writes.
The fact of the matter is a cell phone only triangular -- to local cell sites right.
So you don't necessarily know exactly what the person is if I -- you know I never thought that I guess.
Met so many people don't bother with a home phone these days that's an interesting reasons for keeping one and that's the problem now with from new enhancement will once system it does tell you where the location.
Of the phone is and that's why you should always keep a home.
Foreign confessing that out yeah I mean I think that's a very good good point about the kind of values itself on -- once a while presenting a paper -- who -- one of those senators.
But if you're using -- -- people move all over the country and keep their home video of their local maybe area code in their phone number and -- -- moved into parts of the country so.
Be able didn't move very quickly on cases like this if that is the case then that would be helpful the other is and echo with Thomas -- you know good police work.
Requires you not just to knock on the door and go away and see if the window was broken it requires a bit more especially if you have a call of duress such as this -- he -- take some more proactive steps now what will happen.
You know any aftermath and it's hard to -- is a very tragic commented on perhaps a -- in technology but perhaps in this in police.
Procedures and interesting all right led -- -- police procedures.
Tom.
We we talked before about this story about the NYPD the New York police department.
Was carrying out a surveillance operation across the river in pop in New Jersey there was some questions about whether they should have been doing that.
But what they were doing was monitoring Muslims over that when they -- where they show all to that remote monitoring.
Sermons in mosques over there.
Now -- some lawsuits to calm that we -- we heard.
This week that six years of that operation didn't produce a single leader a single terrorism case now we got lawsuits coming.
That we know about right we don't know what the intelligence will lead to in the future we don't know what the intelligence led to with a torn.
We just -- case hasn't -- And the people who were suing.
We'll have to proven record of well what do you damage he's worked.
Right there on no damages the police did it in public areas they watch public things that anyone could watch.
They took -- plate numbers we don't even know if any of those plate numbers led.
To an arrest on a different crime because -- law enforcement agencies will have to walk.
But I think a fine if it so if I'm wondering -- random New York City as I do.
-- yeah.
And I can find out a couple years later that the -- have been monitoring every one that all might move.
Of every one -- my movements I don't have any case unless I can prove that that damage we.
Even if I say what I think -- freaked out about that that's good I'm going to be traumatize the rest of my life looking over my shoulders -- Okay yeah what does it actually this is where I'm a bit -- conflict on this -- being the New York City resident directly or work here live in the area one to be well protected.
You know know the folks and NYPD -- do everything you can to protect us and I want that to happen on the other hand.
I do know that you know you have to be be certain before you start following you know citizens.
What the potential crime is and you know when I was -- the FBI we -- all the time where perhaps.
You know a citizen pass through surveillance we -- know whether or not they were connected with perhaps and foreign counterintelligence operation.
You know when you had suspicion he had belief that they were involved you can follow them if not you would to break off and keep that.
They keep that information listed so that people knew that you started your stop for good reasons.
Point -- getting at here is that.
You know putting putting aside for a second that this was that they have Muslims at a mosque let's say it was it teaches at the county fair or -- was you know firemen who getting together for.
You know picnic.
You know what is the what is the boundary which the police have been -- NYPD can go.
Over into an escape which is typically the FBI sister station -- interstate and not a local brutally -- and monitor citizens and I do think.
That in this case -- seemed I think him bring the case -- bring to light what the procedures are and I think it's some cases these have to be looked at a much more certainly.
All right now we have to get to the story of the day the greatest story -- today Prince Harry.
Has apparently exposed to the crown jewels.
They're -- photographs offset credits all vacation in Vegas when he was wearing a lot less than the act.
Apparently -- -- naked.
In his hotel suite at the Wynn hotel in Vegas.
The photographs are on line we -- not showing that but nor are we paying for them for that matter.
Bum.
So the question is how one Tom does a security detail on the -- traveled everywhere with the security detail how did they let.
This happen and how -- they allow somebody all he is mom Stephanie -- eccentric and I -- stature advisedly.
Not visibility president that how do they allow that to happen in the ball well everybody knows everybody's got a camera.
I think you have to understand the mentality happen.
I think you have to understand the mentality protection if you with a Secret Service who you and private industry like Illinois are.
You you have to.
Comply or go along with -- principle the person you're protecting -- you have to allow them to be an individual.
What you responsible for is protecting their safety.
Protecting their clothes on so when they do something you'll win -- with a bunch of people if you've -- background checks and you know we're there with.
You know in in this case you know it looked like he was in very good hands.
And and -- will.
Problem vulnerable well there's no as Mel Brooks said in history the world part one.
It's good to be king in this in this case is going to be the prince.
I would probably -- billion as far as protecting people like this week we saw a bit of this in duke with Bill Clinton Monica Lewinsky scandal.
Where the Secret Service called in disable what did you see take place.
And and they actually held their ground is saying that this was you know personal this was not an issue where he was violating the law with the need to reported -- -- A matter duty of their office.
And so.
There they weren't allowed to speak about they didn't speak about it.
In cases like this I would think the security detail paid if they're going into a private setting where he's been you know with with friends or a friend.
Making sure people don't have cellphones and cameras -- -- yeah I think they're excellent.
And so they're they're very they're bros -- to protect them from people might be looking to attack them as well as you know any violations -- lost so if he was to violate the law.
Or -- round and they would have a duty reported but otherwise a personal matter it's it's and some -- account.
Joyce he says who took the pictures we all have rights to a private life somebody who was -- he decided -- to make some money off of them I would imagine.
Griffin did they -- apparently what they've done was met a bunch of young ladies.
In in a bomb or by the pool at one of the hotels and invited them back to his suite so obviously those people turned up with cameras it seems.
Griffin 57 says he was in his hotel -- fully to attention this is getting I -- he was streaking through the casino I think that suddenly weakness AM for the -- The -- -- ultra right says the act -- simply walking into the view should view shed.
Of someone else's camera does not implicitly.
Wave at my privacy right I think the biggest question in this -- Scramble aids.
Why the heck wasn't -- invited.
Seems to be the question of Prince Harry -- on the first -- right bill that any more beyond office.
-- -- VP with the amazing brilliant.
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