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We are back in Tampa Florida alive from the site of the Republican National Convention.
My next guest says that if Mitt Romney really wants to win the election and by the way I think he does.
-- he he needs to continue making statements like this one.
Let's stop and think about this system of government and what it tells us in its founding document.
The declaration of independence it does not say that the government gave us our rights it said that god gave us our rights.
Joining me is author of the book the -- evangelicals the inside story of how evangelicals and the Tea Party.
Are taking America.
David Brody joins me -- so good to have you like a pleasure to be we're together.
You know I love the book and I've brutal script part because I was so really impressed with the first of all you coined a phrase.
That I thought was brilliant the Tea Party evangelicals.
And the point you make is a lot of people in the Tea Party are actually evangelicals.
Bullet train and and one of the main reasons I wrote the book is to kind of come -- lot of these mainstream media -- that.
There evangelicals can walk and chew gum at the same time up there with something you've been talking about for years really I mean it's not it's not rocket science here which is -- by the way evangelicals care about the economy.
As well onto what these evangelicals are as you've -- as you know -- these conservative Christians typically evangelical don't have to be but a breaking bad bread with the Tea Party.
But there was such -- I think perception and the official narrative from the media less that the Tea Party was.
But a movement totally focused on economic issues -- -- thing about this so called social issues -- value issues.
Like the sanctity of life for marriage.
You say they do care about this thing what -- do and and the polling shows that 60% of the Tea Party considers himself socially conservative 40%.
Roughly libertarian now that begs the question wait a minute 60% of them are socially conservative.
What -- -- in the Tea Party being taken over.
By social issues and why are those evangelicals those pesky evangelicals.
Ruining the day with all of -- social wishes -- -- answer is.
Once again it's not about the social issues they can take and play that game somewhere else they can take their ball go play somewhere else on that when it comes the Tea Party it is all about.
Fiscal austerity there's no doubt about it.
He you talk in the book that there is.
The connection between evangelicals and Tea Party.
But one thing I -- very important.
-- fiscal conservatives.
Are not always social conservatives but you point out that social conservatives.
Are always fiscal conservatives how did you come to that conclusion and what was your research did to get -- there.
Well the for the first -- -- -- anecdotal in the sense that it meaning you see it all the time.
But you can just go for the litany of this pro family agenda whether -- be Tony Perkins over the family research council -- folks at the Concerned Women for America.
What they all talk about how.
Let me give you an example if you spent a 112 billion dollars is what the federal government spends on program to go to unwed moms and divorce in this country 112 billion dollars well.
The folks in the pro family movements that you -- the divorce rate half you're gonna save yourself about 55 billion dollars up.
Everything is linked between social conservative social conservatism.
And fiscal conservatism you can go down the want Planned Parenthood is another good example.
Obamacare with abortion as part of that whole dispute and and and debate that's another big part of it is.
Let's talk about the tea party's influence on this year's 2012 elections they were a huge factor in 2010.
Probably without doubt.
Shape the congressional elections how much of an influence do you see.
The Tea Party are issue would call it the -- evangelicals.
Having on the 2000 trouble much.
What they're huge and look what we've seen Richard Murdoch defeating Dick Lugar an Indiana -- Deb -- obviously -- as well Scott Walker had a huge recall victory and by the way.
All of them were -- evangelicals I mean Scott Walker and Richard Murdoch and we went on the road and talk to them about their faith and how hurt their faith.
Intersects with their politics and of course Ted Cruz who pulled off the big upset in Texas and oh yeah he's a -- evangelical -- -- so they might not like the label.
But it's not so much about the label as it is the brand of this team this evangelical brand which really represent something much bigger which is that.
There are fiscal conservatives social conservatives and the -- evangelicals really compromise both ends of the spectrum.
So it he added what you're saying is would be a mistake to assume that issues that are value issues.
Should be ignored completely in 2012 well that's -- it would be a mistake now having said that you know there is no reason for let's say a Mitt Romney and others to get tripped up if you which are on the social issues and so.
I think when you -- you play that clip of him getting that standing ovation.
In Irwin Pennsylvania when he talked about how government in essence is getting too big and god is getting too small that our rights come from god not government.
Governor is a winning combination a winning ticket for Mitt Romney to really -- -- that because I gotta tell you have been on the campaign trail all the time.
He's standing ovations the longest want to get.
They're not about obamacare there about when he talked specifically about government being too big not being too small.
While well I know this people are gonna love the book.
I do and I think it is a great analysis.
Of where the Tea Party really is and who's and it.
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