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Watchdog groups' 'reckless' criticism led to FRC shooting?

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    Head of the Southern Poverty Law Center responds to accusations that it provoked FRC shooter

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Back to -- segments tied 28 year old Floyd -- -- -- -- has been indicted by a grand jury for his violent attack on the conservative family research council operation.

In Washington DC.

-- is allegedly shot and wounded one man before -- was wrestled to the ground and arrest.

The president -- the FRC says he believes scorpions was spurred on by a liberal group.

Most of -- probably -- Senator because they disagree with our positions on -- age and certain religious issues have labeled us a hate group.

And that gives license to lunatics like like this to come in with a gun and shoot innocent people.

And joining us now from Montgomery Alabama to reply mark -- -- senior fellow at the Southern Poverty Law Center.

And you said.

Well first of all -- I wanna say I appreciate your having me on my also appreciate the fact that when you have Tony Perkins on your air last week that you didn't have completely finds ways that we challenge everyone we know it is.

Sure I mean look the reality is is that the way he is described our criticism of his group this entirely false we do not list any group on the basis of believing that homosexuality.

Is a CN.

Or opposing same six sex marriage.

We have listed the FRC the family research council's I hate group because it regularly spreads demonizing.

False propaganda.

About the LG BT can you give me an example it describes people.

Well it describes gay people as perverted as incestuous.

As he able.

As dangerous to the nation.

But it also regularly says things that are flat out lies about gay people as a group.

If for instance describes how to -- yet in Tony Perkins his words as a homosexual problem.

I his closely associated had -- feel -- with homosexuality.

And that is simply false scenario.

Not to let let me.

All the well every -- you organization let me read -- a press release part of -- -- to -- to do to replied to a viewpoints.

On -- homosexuals in demonizing them.

This is what the FRC says in a press release are right.

He says we are Christian -- Christian organization with an obligation -- love our neighbor including our neighbors who experience same sex attractions however we believe.

Sexual acts between persons of the same sex.

-- objectively harmful to those who choose to engage in them.

And to society at large.

And in addition to being forbidden by scripture so their belief system says homosexuality is central it is wrong.

Are they a hate group.

For that belief.

Not because of those that set of beliefs they are hate group because they lie.

About scientifically known facts about the LG beat.

BT community trial on that you know are now completely on -- -- all right on that they -- well.

The FRC has never said it does not believe that most homosexuals are child molesters however.

It is undisputed that a percentage of child sex abuse cases that are male on male is far higher.

Than a percentage of adult males who are homosexual.

So they are pointing out that in this area and there is a higher.

Percentage.

Of gay.

Pedophilia.

Homosexual kind of -- -- Than heterosexuals had a field or they hate group for pointing that out but.

Bill they're not pointing something out that's true their point you're making a false allegation -- that any way they say you say that's not true and they just I just finish -- cut.

That's what I'm saying they also say that gay people are quote fundamentally.

Incapable of being good parents.

That also was -- and that's been shown by many studies.

Conducted not by the southern poverty and I think this is potentially so why -- -- -- -- I -- I think the statistics -- could be wrong but we'll get them.

That the mail.

Boy pedophilia problem is much more intense than the mail girl pedophilia problem okay.

Being that being said when users if there -- on the line OK bottom line -- The bottom line is that people who molest children the vast majority of them have zero interest.

In -- adults.

In a sexual way.

So in other words they will hit on SO -- any child -- I would ask in the issue of same sex thing that vulnerable the same serves -- -- boy or girl that's true -- the same sex thing is more dominant than the other.

I gotta get to the sovereign citizens thing here -- Are right on August 16 as you know to Louisiana deputy shot dead two others wounded.

By a group members of a group called a sovereign citizens movement what is the sovereign citizens movement.

The sovereign citizens movement is a bunch of people who come out of the world of malicious that we all heard about so much back in the 1990s.

The so called patriot movement.

And they are I -- the city as a movement believe that they do not have to follow any federal laws that they do not have to pay their taxes.

And in -- -- most importantly that the government cannot regulate their driving on the roads.

Can't make people get driver's licenses -- car registrations that kind of stood there and our kids -- disarmed and Sparano had purchased enormous amount of violence how many are there are there a lot of these pencil out right wing anarchist they believe they can do anything they want iRobot -- responsible now for the murder of a police officer since the year 2000.

How many are there in the country.

Our best estimate is that there are about a 100000 people who are essentially kind of hard course -- There may be as many as 200000 others.

Who essentially -- -- the techniques of the sovereign movement which promises itself followers things like if they file the right -- first.

They can get twenty million dollars from the government that sort of thing so they've been very attractive some people are to put Doug thanks very much we preach.