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All those whose cares have been our concern.
The work goes on the cause indoors.
The hope still lives and the dream shall never die.
That was one of the pivotal moments one of the most famous moments in modern political history that was when Ted Kennedy gave his concession speech.
At the 1980.
Democratic National Convention at Madison Square Garden.
Conceding to incumbent president Jimmy Carter.
And what he was talking about was that once it was clear that he wouldn't have the delegates to get over the top.
That he went and conceded to Carter and supported him but brought the house down with that speech.
And this is power play coming to you from the Republican National Convention down here in Tampa.
Conventions are now are sort of like PowerPoint presentations for the country it's a way to take people through and talk about -- -- that parties have because it's been a long time since anybody really fought it out on the floor of the convention.
The last time that happened was 1980.
And I want you remember what was going on.
Was the incumbent president United States rather a moderate Democrat former governor of Georgia and Ted Kennedy led an insurgency from the left against Jimmy Carter.
Weakened him and made -- -- -- or enabled anyway Ronald Reagan in his effort to unseat the incumbent.
It was a pretty big deal if you're -- political junkie like me and you probably are if you're watching this right now this was a pretty big deal.
So we realize that down here in Tampa we happen to have.
Four different people.
Who were playing four different roles on that day when this happened.
Now I'm gonna introduce you to these people as they are known today as their business card we'll tell you today.
And then they're gonna tell you what they were doing that that they you know Joseph Trippi who is -- Fox News contributor he's a democratic strategist -- -- you Internet to help revolutionized politics -- the Howard Dean campaign.
Is -- not true.
Hell yeah yeah -- helped okay you'll -- -- -- -- that update right and and you know and you know Pat Caddell and he is a democratic strategist pollster.
He is a guy who you read his columns and the Wall Street Journal you read -- foxnews.com is also a campaign insider.
-- on you and he enjoys that you know Brit Hume is our senior political analyst he is one of the reasons I do what I do for a living.
And this is my compliment that he is the senior vice president for news.
At the Fox News Channel so again I want to emphasize is my boss's boss please conduct yourself accordingly Internet.
Now let's go back down the other way and start with you mr.
What were you doing that day what was your job.
I was in the big -- With the anchors at the time -- David Brinkley was there.
Right Reynolds ABC news yes I was with -- ABC this is pre cable.
So right right very writer producer we have a giant Booth with the giant piece -- -- probably thirty people in there and I was helping to.
Keep those folks since the podium is behind them.
Up to speed on what was coming up from what was going and we're providing what they thought editorial editorial support editorial support mr.
-- you were receiving editorial support I was -- floor correspondent.
And that convention and yours so I had a -- had said some of the big -- a realistic that we all thought that they look kind of ridiculous.
If you're political correspondent.
You wanted to be have one of those things on and you wanted to be down on the floor and I was I was very excited about that and pat.
Well I would see -- pollster and basically strategist Carter campaign -- of this day trying to finish off negotiations seeking Kennedy out.
He actually spoke about a -- And that some wing talk about.
-- my job was basically the end of that speech to go out and praised the speech so I was on the floor looking for people like -- you were -- I was out there to spin how united we were what -- -- anti Reagan speech that water.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- I was one of the floor managers for the Texas and Utah delegation for Kennedy in the fight against Carter who is.
Pretty young at -- -- -- -- you -- very early twenties I remember beings -- starry eyed as people like great human.
Other folks I'd seen on television walked by and comment about us it was pretty it was pretty pretty amazing thing to be on that okay so -- Kennedy still ended up about a third of the delegates.
-- when you -- -- that what give us give us the -- of the day of the drama as we go into the well the big dollar little suspense that convention was whether Kennedy would give full throated support enthusiastic support was -- -- he was really gonna get it done.
Well there was no one knew it and there was a you know when negotiations were going on between the two camps.
The men were not warm toward each other in any real way and and Kennedy positioning figure extemporaneously he was almost incoherent.
But that's not -- through throughout his career you know he said rumba you know amazing.
Right -- formally re famous Kennedy isn't.
We're -- and written speeches.
Delivered with a teleprompter he could -- sensational.
What he was what he did that day and night and -- -- of which we just heard was.
This set piece speech he gave.
And it always ended with this amazing refrain about.
About you know the -- viewers in the dream will never die it was a dream will never die speech and democratic noises heard.
I variation of that -- time and time again and always brought the house down as it did on on this night.
And for you guys for the for the politicos.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- The Carter guys were on one side of the room drinking Coke because.
-- Atlanta Georgia -- -- -- Coca-Cola and and the in all those -- guys were in their drinking Pepsi can mean we literally ran into this and if you don't and it ended this day.
I kind of lean towards drinking Pepsi over and over a -- image speak got that kind of you kind of bitter in internal on the on the floor was.
The animosities were so great I would have been Teddy Kennedy's pollster and its senate races 76 wanted to Carter and it worked for him for a -- And -- Brendan McGovern campaign which I had worked -- Also many of the Kennedy people were old friends a month.
I was on the looks you can't understand how much this was Boston vs Atlanta it was like the civil war revisited.
Got to put some label.
And Michael what was -- as you are seeing all of this stream of data come through when you have to be feeding everybody in setting this up what was that what was the -- was there urgency was there vibe.
-- otherwise I mean what was down on the floor of the stars are closer to it but.
You know on the phone with -- in the Booth.
Where the people.
Under these guys I think who were trying to get us to say.
Kennedy can do it or there's not a chance in hell is gonna do it -- because at this at this point we're still in the moment -- was talking about where.
We don't know which way this is gonna go can Kennedy and usually we get the -- can I Joseph -- do his job well enough.
And -- -- all right and you guys you know you you get off the phone on guy and it sounds pretty convincing and get off of all of the other guy.
Tell illicit columnist on the -- -- liberal we negotiated -- three us.
-- we also negotiated through the press interviews and Frank Reynolds.
Ted Koppel David Brinkley -- their anchors journalists are trying to.
Present both sides of this.
And as a part that sort of if you see a fight and militant that's that's a good little story if there's that and contention and was a.
On in the third or fourth night.
When senior Carter -- Hamilton insured.
Was sent to the Kennedy hotel to talk to the Kennedy people about how all this was in this on the final and others in the play out bag man.
Well whether Kennedy would come -- the hall and they would have the famous hands clasped you know victory here gesture.
Which was -- that that even that was going to be possible.
And we knew that he was there.
We were looking for him and he appeared on the floor.
And he appeared on the floor in the Florida delegation.
I was nearby and got to microphone with a big ABC flag on it in his face right.
Other correspondents -- immediately on the scene this was the interview of that moment that you wanted to have.
My high school classmate Bruce Mathers his son of the late senator George -- of Florida.
Was part of the Florida delegates one of its leaders.
And he stood in the I'll have blocked by competitors.
I -- -- -- location with their microphones with them like black as Baghdad so they have some of the -- -- kind of get their -- in a little bit.
They couldn't get themselves.
So everybody takes this interview that I'm conducting its you know I'm -- when he could hear.
I'm conducting this interview -- and end -- every camera.
Of every network had to take this -- -- all latest -- -- what they could see their microphones they could pick up the sound but they couldn't get their correspondents really that close.
So I had this that ABC news producers were over the moon and suddenly -- stock at least for a few minutes there.
A -- Michael I wanna go back to something you mentioned which is -- talking about this story I mean.
People talk about media buys a lot.
But the one -- that I know exists that I am absolutely sure is that exists there's a bias for good compelling stories the bias exists we're drama and not I mean.
We remember and April of this year march of this year all the Republicans are going to a brokered convention at the floor -- -- never give up and there was a lot of wishful thinking I think in people's.
Well it's true I think.
I do remember frank saying Frank Reynolds.
He didn't think Kennedy had much of a chance think I think he he knew that logically.
You know we're all they -- in the room to -- new going to be watching in this.
You know do you wanna hear some somebody just sort of speaking like this I mean it was they were great to hear -- right they were written but they were.
They were great to hear and it was a little hey this is.
It's it is television after all it's television -- people like to watch.
Show her look at this thing is there were these.
Kind of ridiculous.
Cast votes that happened throughout I mean from the very first day I mean we're we're Kennedy kept we kept prodding -- trying to figure out if we could -- delegates off in this.
How close is where you at any point how close were there we we were you got caught up.
-- -- like there was this from.
We keep all these different rules votes in game but it was going point isn't bad it was it there was there was real tension about those folks really -- matter it.
No one knew for sure could Kennedy -- some of those women away or some of -- -- -- So there -- uncertainty and then you have all the way through the uncertainty of -- Kennedy and Carter.
Come together and out of that moment never really did have a any -- -- a lot of cloudy -- But yeah they barely ever they got kind of a moment of this awkward and class gesture.
But it was it was clearly -- not off the bus and take into this day their -- meaning many people on the Democratic Party who believe it was actually been tuning and in the Kennedy camps.
Not not doing the right training and in and -- at night joining with Carter that cost him the presidents Reagan and it's true or not whether -- would.
Actually -- -- Graham and anyway since then parties learned their lesson what they they have contrived and -- range systems in those days the way the people got to these conventions or by being the -- being committee met in their states and it was a much less open an egalitarian process and.
Well over the a lot of deleterious to a democratic rules have been affected biggest rule challenge to Joseph was talking about -- What's the delegates were -- Other by the result the robot to robot -- the big Edward Bennett Williams who proposed this idea that we should on -- the delegates the Kennedy people said that was going to be the test.
This is the boat after which.
That vote we won almost can be one that was -- could we held everybody but don't think she have it.
If you hear it would it would be an all the primaries is the problem fifty Italy the problem itself the -- -- -- -- they had big.
But but look at the end when Kennedy spoke -- support them with this was about it was about the economic.
That we were -- because we -- opposed to all of your point.
And he carried the day -- big I picked up the phone and said died all of this who's gonna give it to them because that hole with a lot of the program we were gonna get.
Slaughtered in the press I think it was easier to to control method.
-- these guys they -- because.
Right there were only three networks.
Right on the we're you know there were some great papers but there was no blogging and there's -- -- -- -- there was no yeah.
Nothing fake TV -- an hour we prefer Internet television but yes party so that you are right parties learned their lesson.
No -- divided to bits of conventions.
But because of what goes -- the people believe that was the undoing will be -- not true we had gone ahead to a -- because there's just doesn't -- between.
Ford Reagan -- it in had been -- these -- the last two conventions where.
Both really mattered -- -- you know whether they didn't matter not because we need people to go what is vote actually -- let us have -- to him do what mr.
Kim does best NTELOS didn't mean any thing does that mean anything today.
What what happened them.
Good and I think that's OK okay.
Good story several million well we'll get I would tell a story yes we -- it -- I had a that was a great moment I got better than I was.
But younger -- Very excited about it but.
Later on that evening.
Thing was over we're still hanging out on the air all of actions over.
I went over and did an interview with a guy and all of those giant foam cowboy -- some familiar and it was and he was promoting some local issue -- local candidate.
And I did this did an interview with the bat him and his hat.
I -- and I cannot acted to -- -- seriously if you would cause he was seeking to promote without ads and all of this with the hat and everything.
And the guys Brinkley and Reynolds in the anchor -- thought it was great they were should -- given yakking it up in my in my -- you know -- do an interview that they thought it was funny and it.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- You know I'd like to see you wanted to taxable and good candidate for a fleeting moment I thought to ask the guy to me to -- -- included on.
Had I done that I doubt I'd be sitting it.
I thought you would have been up and if this is not a grand old replace somebody sitting on on the power play so that's good instinct told me you know.
-- not gonna do this.
With us and I didn't and thank god this is like this -- -- very proud to call Brit Hume a mentor because one of the things that we know -- -- headgear.
But they wanted to put anything on your head and don't put anything other than it -- Chris if there's a model like a model plane don't pick it up touch it point to it don't pick it up because.
If you if you do that people are -- usually -- am I.
Well let me tell you what the chatter said that they say they're loving the ghost of Christmas political past.
And having a lot of -- that.
-- still -- the king of -- that's right if you're around other positive that's the Internet but yes.
And we have some folks say they should have -- but Michelle Bachmann and Michelle -- should've never dividend and fought all the way to the convention.
But the why this is.
Joey EB says Chris -- a great handle today.
And he's right.
You guys are great thank you so much for making time this is a lot of fun for -- -- but thank and it's good we're gonna take a quick break but when we come back.
There is more raw political excellence waiting for you on the other side in this one hour -- our reply I will do that when we come back.
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