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And welcome to FOX News Sunday panel plots -- Brit Hume Kirsten Powers.

Bill Kristol and justice -- -- let me start with you and and and kind of an -- where is this race now in terms of the electoral map in terms of issues.

In terms of money and you can go through let's start with the electoral map where is this race now it's.

-- electoral map is surprisingly.

The same as it was months there with the one exception of Wisconsin has moved a little bit more and into the battleground territory but look at where these candidates are traveling right after after the conventions are focusing on Ohio and Florida not surprisingly but.

If the Romney campaign is probably most worried about Ohio of all the big states those eighteen electoral votes are critical and there's something about Ohio.

That pat has.

Has -- the Romney campaign a little bit they thought they would be doing better there Republicans.

Had a big resurgence in Ohio in 2010 they have a Republican governor but the economy and if I was actually getting better the unemployment rate -- seven point 2%.

And and that has created a bit of a mixed message -- a problem so.

Of all the places that the Romney campaign is focused on that Ohio is the top the list and in Florida.

I would say right after that but where are battleground it's really pretty small we're talking about eight.

Or nine states probably -- toss ups after this convention we'll see if North Carolina remains.

A toss up or not or Democrats -- sort of let that slide the Obama campaign will have to make decisions on where to spend money because they will be.

Outspent now raised -- so.

If from Nevada to Colorado to Iowa to Wisconsin Ohio Virginia North Carolina Florida New Hampshire those -- the states -- we're going to see.

The campaign play out there.

Before and move on me just ask you -- money because the Romney camp -- at the that the Obama campaign made a big mistake.

-- they say so using so much money between.

When he became in effect the Republican nominee in April and now and yes they did help to find him and stop but they.

Outspent even what they were raising.

And that they Republicans don't have a sixty.

Million dollar advantage given money.

It's gonna be a big factor in this final two months of the campaign.

I think both sides are going to have enough money to.

Who get their messages out at some point there's going to be I would think a point of diminishing returns here and television ads are so much noise and confusion out there so.

There was no question the Obama campaign took -- gamble by spending so much money this summer but I think it was probably a Smart gamble.

Win or lose.

In a couple months because they did define governor Romney and sort of had a -- steals but.

That's not only -- -- on the committee is spending its money they're spending so much money in an old fashioned ground -- all these brick and mortar officers.

Across the country we'll see if they've built.

Too big of an organization for what they really need here but in terms of advertising I think that W -- it and we'll have.

Enough money to get its its ads on the air -- what would you -- altered what Jeff said.

No I really agree that and I think.

There will be a national debate over the next two months.

And I think we can to save my mom's facet of my own statements they've -- they're outperforming a little bit of the upper midwest the Romney campaign on the forming a little bit and Virginia.

And Ohio and -- interest -- why that might be different economic fact that -- social issues I think hitting a little more in Wisconsin Minnesota some of those were socially conservative.

Iowa.

Midwestern states.

But it will be having this one nation has started -- said.

The last week and I think the president Obama's the slogan here is what come together something.

And there will be these big debates and I think we shouldn't lose sight of those were looking ahead.

That we thought -- as Soviets out of micro targeting the end of the day 5060 million Americans are gonna watch the three presidential one vice presidential debate.

And there's a history of those debates moving numbers at least for a while they've taken races -- -- 45 points apart and move them.

Very close for example for broke -- open a little bit I think that first presidential debate I think its October 3 is the day for the most important day after this week for the next two months.

You know but the key to that though is because -- think back to 1980 and Reagan Carter people worried had decided they really didn't want Jimmy Carter is president.

And when they saw Reagan they were reassured and thought you know he'd be okay in the Oval Office and they moved in droves to -- This I I don't have much doubt that Romney will show he's a credible president the question becomes are people.

Gonna be disillusioned that disillusioned that they want to make a change with with Obama.

I think people like to compare Obama to Carter but he's not Jimmy Carter and I don't think people feel about him the way people felt about Jimmy Carter -- -- -- obviously have their upset about the job situation.

And they have some reservations but they ultimately I don't see think they they don't see him as a weak leader -- say so.

And in terms of the campaigns that I don't think the Obama campaign made any kind of gamble actually what they did was exactly the right thing they have defined Romney in a way.

That he now has to dig himself out of this hole I mean even electability numbers that I was -- earlier are incredibly low.

And so keep people -- have a fixed idea of who Romney is and he now has to -- -- And convince them he's not the person that billed vultures that you know corporate raider guy but he's been defined that and that's a lot harder to tell you story when you're having to go against that the story that's hurting -- told.

-- question and obviously this campaign -- turning off well -- I see this campaign is as either being like 1980.

Former like 20041980.

Course you have very negative conditions in the country in the -- president whose record was was nothing to crow about.

And the race remained after the Democratic Convention very close.

For a long time and and as bill mentioned it broke late for Reagan people went to him and growth when they decided he was an acceptable alternative.

That acceptable alternative.

Is what Mitt Romney is trying to has been trying for now some time to show that he is.

The races more like 2004 which is what I think the Obama camp hopes.

Where George W Bush's campaign did this masterful job of turning out every single voters who could possibly been counted on to vote for him.

They did who's the greatest voter turnout effort in history could to Democrats had their best.

And the incumbent in kind of mixed conditions.

Squeaked by.

And I think that by the bars and what a 1161000.

Votes in -- in the state of Ohio.

We look at the way the U with the Obama campaign has been going appealing point by point to the elements of their base to try to -- they can rally the mall.

41 last drive for the for the president and I think they're very much hoping it'll end up like go for I don't think we know yet.

Well to be continued thank you all panel please check in with -- us throughout the week and let us know what you think about.

What this campaign is gonna be like a -- -- with us at FOX News Sunday dot com give us your opinions and we'll see you back in Washington.

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