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Sebelius on ObamaCare and the 2012 Election

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    Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius talks with Alan about how ObamaCare will affect the lives of Americans and this year’s preside...

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I don't come -- live tonight.

Time Warner Cable Arena the -- second night back to the first real action packed night of the Democratic National Convention.

In -- Charlotte, North Carolina and before rhetorical -- you normally open with your calls -- -- -- break that -- tonight because we have sitting in front of us here -- civilians to secretary of health and human services.

Great speech tonight or -- it like being up there and that the embassy.

But the crowd is really fired up -- it's a fun night to be here and a lot of substance about what.

You know Democrats believe in what we're proud to be Democrats and what we've done so far in the first four years of what we're looking forward to.

Are you talking about change and you know people if he ran and hope McCain I -- that's been.

We're in the process of accomplishing that and went -- some people when they they say they want can't really actually get as you think if you talk about what she really looks like.

Well I attacked a lot about obamacare the Affordable Care Act and saying that -- having three million previously uninsured young adults were now on their parents' plan that's about change having.

Women know that insurance companies can't charge -- 50% more than men.

For a policy that doesn't cover women's health service that's changed so we outlined his appointment -- -- I was amazed at the level.

Men -- -- at the Republican Convention and that they just.

Lie after lie and I don't I don't see this I don't -- this is a left wing -- at just the fact -- himself that that I.

What they said with not a particularly Paul Ryan and I couldn't believe it.

Well it's pretty stunning in its stunning when you have a record and you have been a proud author legislation that I frankly.

Don't support at all but supposedly he -- it he voted for it yet convince a lot of people and now he's denying it.

93 the 760 billion dollars that gets cut that he voted for that was the Ryan plan that.

Is in the Affordable Care Act.

That what is the -- -- between what they would do that money and what the Democrats would do that.

Well first of all people.

Describe the Republicans describe -- as -- thought this isn't it's slowing down the rate of recovery and have grown and that's another line -- you event Obama's -- somehow.

Now we're stealing money from seniors and what obamacare has done is actually strengthen.

-- -- -- -- But slows down the rate of growth really.

By doing three big things.

Stop -- insurance companies stop overpaying drug companies and go after fraud and abuse in a way that's never been done before with Marty what about eleven billion dollars back -- the trust fund.

What Paul Ryan's plan would do what the house Republican budget does.

Is take those savings but not put it to -- -- -- doesn't close the doughnut hole doesn't do more preventive services doesn't do well on the screening.

It puts it to deficit reduction of what claim they're using it to save Medicare which had at the hello -- is absolutely solid and they still -- the voucher plan.

They -- is empirical ultimately the people under 55 to go to a full voucher system and -- that.

You -- totally decimate.

Medicare.

You bet they really would take that Medicare guarantee me 47 years ago that says you have a guaranteed set of benefits and blow it up say what you get is about your.

That's worth a lot -- with 6400.

Dollars less than the benefits of today costs and your on your own.

To negotiate with insurance company.

Why do you think so many people vote against their own interest or favor people with policies that are against their own -- I think a lot of times and we're going to see this play out a little bit it's because they really get a lot of this information during that debate on the Affordable Care Act if you remember.

A lot of people said.

This hole and Medicare's Evelyn Medicare Advantage plans are gonna take money -- it's nothing could illegal immigrants are they get covered you know -- definite.

So people actually.

Still have some of that misinformation and when UC.

Paul Ryan stand on the stage.

First of all denying that he ever supports the reduction in growing costs of Medicare and then says this will blow up -- -- it's just.

Hard for people to understand what the true.

One thing that troubles me is that there are -- people who are unsure about how it's going to affect them I get most of the night listeners and businesses as well who.

Are a little worried about what -- net result it's going to be a few -- -- people that.

It's going to be okay.

Well I think.

Every day that goes by people are feeling a little better so they were told basically the world is coming to an end if this bill -- passes gets on it for two years -- Three million.

Young people have health insurance that they did we now have health policies being -- -- to cover women's health services we have seniors with extra benefits we have people.

Now who are looking at.

Getting a rebate we had Allen a billion -- sent out by insurance companies that went to their customers.

That didn't meet the so called 8020 rule and less than 80% of your health care premium is spent on your help here.

You've got to check back from your insurance company that happened to thirteen million Americans this summer.

Also no lifetime limits on how much -- -- time elements you can't be kick daddy your plan because you have some history to win they say repeal and replace number one CBO says it'll cost -- billion dollars if a quarter of record of -- trillion dollars.

-- place it and then.

What do they get replaced with -- that in.

Two and a half years and there is no replacement they have never talked about they keep saying.

Will keep the parts of the plan that you like we won't get rid of that but never have passed any kind of plan to put anything in place.

-- civilians -- with a key sectors health and human services.

The other lie is that the president wants to remove the work requirement for welfare.

Could not be further from the truth and -- you're -- and other.

Yes and while we had.

For the last four years his conversations with governors Republicans and Democrats all over the country saying.

The rule useful -- the work.

Well -- to work program.

Don't work.

We know how to put people to work but what you have is doing is filling out too many forms working on too many -- sees.

Let us get people jobs measure is on the job right.

We think that's a good idea.

Put people to work.

That's what should be the goal we actually says if you want to talk to -- about a waiver you governor talked to us about a waiver.

You have to agree at the outset that -- -- percent more people.

Will actually be put to work or you lose your.

How could they blatantly say the opposite of what the truth it is not even -- out -- left right debated to better the -- -- the -- -- well I think unfortunately that decided that this was a way to attack the president.

Made up the information and by the way there is no waiver that has been given to anyone what we -- to governors is if you come in with a plan.

That would put 20% more people to work over the life -- the waver we will talk to about whether or not we would relieve some the requirements to fill out paperwork.

And let you get people -- -- -- flexibility particularly Republicans who want local controls than anyone in Mitt Romney said he wanted when he was government -- is when I was a governor and will align with Mitt Romney twenty -- Republican governors wrote to the administration saying please allow us to have additional flexibility with this program.

We -- governors can put our folks to work.

Mitt Romney decide wanting that was also the forerunner of what is now I'm glad you've embraced -- -- Obama does here because it was -- it was a derogatory comment when the rev -- started using it but it really is obamacare and Mitt Romney -- what he didn't messages should be a national model.

For what should definitely -- -- Obama at first.

For that very thing you know we won't even talk about it when one of his advisors brings it up you have Republicans calling for the dismissal from the campaign.

Well in the missing piece from.

The Romney care plan in Massachusetts which Deval Patrick the current governor is working to fix his that they really did not.

Do a lot about slowing down the rising cost of health care for every one.

They worked on access what the president says we -- learn from Massachusetts what we want to do is both -- Hamilton -- similar slowdown and rising costs.

By improving care and we want to fully.

It sure everyone and that's what's -- -- cars and go up anyway regardless to a possible go up that they -- go up that a lot slower pace so medical costs could go up but about the rate of inflation as opposed to triple the rate of inflation when -- madame secretary thank you very much for your country to be repeated element.