Would privatizing cities save taxpayers money?
New push to get government completely out of our lives
- Duration 8:39
- Date Sep 8, 2012
New push to get government completely out of our lives
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We all belong to.
We're different churches different clubs -- together as a part of our city our -- our state.
The government is the only thing we all belong -- That's what I have video of the democrats' national convention sad but now is -- new push to get the government completely out of our lives by.
Entire cities is -- how to save taxpayers from big government spending wolf hello everybody I'm Cheryl Casone -- -- cash NN.
I guess this week we have Wayne Rogers Jonathan -- -- -- Brockman John late -- and joining us as we got different images more than webpart so welcome to all of you -- start with you on this when the planet to create cities that are completely private.
Down in Honduras is did bring anti American -- -- -- -- share all the country being an.
States is going -- we are watching one city after another go bankrupt politicians.
Not making the tough decisions to rein in that spending.
Cities are are losing find funding from the state as well as the federal government why not bring in private enterprise they have all the cash in the world there -- much cast.
That they can have two -- maintain levels of risk they can bring that on as well.
So let me have a and we know that government is famous for it is notorious for running business badly for -- like -- what do you make of that do you think that this is a good idea to -- -- changed the structure of cities across America make some private bring corporations then.
I think you're gonna see a privatization wave across America you are you see a lot of money massage from a -- to Goldman Sachs waiting -- -- -- airports.
A toll roads things of the sort of turn into -- a private sector option.
That's gonna happen just because of budgets like -- said cities get 41%.
Almost half the revenue.
From a state the state it's 36% from the federal government.
That is being cut off and these cities now don't you -- -- in San Bernardino they're firing school -- guards because they don't have the money.
-- -- -- twelve -- -- in Oregon that don't have patrols outside of the city you're seeing funding cut everywhere and what you're gonna see is a wave improvisation.
Probably not all cities but you will see privatization.
We know what -- agenda this is done and other countries around the world and in this idea is frankly not news do you think that it would work in the United States -- -- is what to Hong Kong it's like to Singapore.
However I'm not sure it -- necessarily whack here in the United States the summer and we used to Sandy Springs in Fulton County Georgia.
Which -- -- -- he privatized but Fulton County itself -- -- I think -- -- about that eight million dollars to hear it creates oxen and environment.
So it might not always what -- -- -- sad here in America a lot of the Breton island are about Georgia than I did.
-- Roger what do you say all of those -- Well I I think.
Did it did that expresses two sides have an out of that that's true the larger the city the much more difficult in the larger anything is the much more difficult it is to do manage it and operate it.
But you know we've had a four cities in the state of California that -- broke just in the last.
A couple of years of the city of Ole hole.
Spent 80% of their budget on pensions for the firemen and and the police would you can't continue that and have a -- city of bell that voted that.
It gave the evidence city manager at 800000 dollar a year contract then they -- that would -- to retire from a you cannot continue this so it's got to stop somewhere and I think John is right in the following sense that if you contract out for a lot of these services.
And force people to bid on -- the competitive bidding process will help bring down those costs enormously.
You know what Jonathan -- point here because a lot of the things that we do see -- it is across the country would never fly.
And major corporations.
Their private enterprises.
Over there's a big difference they Sherlund -- government is force so physical force is what we need government for it's how we put physical force -- objective control to the police -- -- in the -- the military that can't be privatized that's the role of government the problem is now isn't that we need to be privatizing city services not city government keep the police as a -- the only vital function of government.
And yes -- -- point all the ancillary to that the health care the education.
The roads that the the airports privatize all that and a -- I -- that -- freedom.
That doesn't -- government force but that's exactly we we have cities and in fact government set up.
You know -- you know I've had this conversation over the business network that there are a lot of things and government that could be done better at it or run like.
Corporations and business principles -- applied -- -- Washington free market share all competition.
Bringing in the private sector to run these companies and ancillary needs I mean again I think somebody else already made this point you're gonna bring costs down.
You mentioned Honduras example off the top of this segment.
-- 5000 new jobs created because.
Of this model and anybody who says who criticizes it saying our lands are being taking -- -- unjustly -- who would want.
Land that's bankrupt and Darren etc.
I don't I don't and it can't there's -- there's peace is a California think I would like to take over in this kind of -- -- name but it -- a good point I mean this -- example it it sounds a little you know out there.
On the outset but the truth is we've got to do some -- -- and it -- -- -- -- on the idea out there to be able to think about classic -- to think about it I mean the public privatization to -- -- to crony capitalism -- you have to have good oversight and sold it sold its contracts.
I'm not so it's for an end -- gone wrong local Chicago Illinois -- -- is that means on.
Chicago is what I hang out fifty million -- government brought food stamps.
That -- -- right yeah any but government can't privatize Haitian government under the -- to privatize -- and -- it might -- -- he saw any contract but but but.
Immediate -- -- -- been a lot of private roads that have been successfully.
Occurred in -- correct in fact -- England in your own home country within -- -- -- many privatizing roads in and I think it cost a benefit for the government because not only did get a lump sum -- flat but there absolved of providing I -- -- -- that -- can't -- things that only the government can build -- road it's patently -- -- your -- home country proves that it's not.
It is not -- I've at this scene we we we the government builds the rights.
That they got while opposing the Bill Simon yeah he's my number in the UK AM I'm confused about things like your example let on and on frank okay I haven't I didn't have to go to the -- Eunice Kennedy -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- late build again it just just -- -- she says that usually they'll -- I think -- -- -- I think it's -- instinct went about the fact that we are seeing more privatization.
Of roads for instances of ports things that I get our president has said that you know he -- -- whatever they -- The government -- at the same time if we're gonna save those same roads it seems are gonna have to go to a private model.
Yeah you're right -- also -- about image and she's very Smart lady but she sounds -- and told him that I.
Let's not turn out good text that I packed -- -- to magna Carter and -- didn't -- it.
The one thing the one thing and another point -- making shells also very right.
We don't have the money to service these roads would do we have politicians who are getting 41% of the revenue from the state.
We also politicians who for decades now has said we're not gonna pay future obligations -- -- use that money right now to give everybody everything they won't free pizza for the world.
And we'll worry about and I'll play these guys would never fly private enterprise and what's gonna be cut is your social services is your police is your fire is your roads in the makings of those things you've got to start -- -- some of these things is for the sake of the fact that better because he's anyway.
What -- -- that the police shouldn't really.
No I've stated -- -- that schedule free up the tax revenue to go toward these police because right now you don't have them we don't have the revenue to cover everything that -- that you need.
So when needed and also -- -- the pension issue an -- and brought up as as a as a big drain on cities at the same time I'm curious if you think congress whatever.
Go for any -- -- point.
I don't know that the congress will have -- go for any avid would you be if you break it up you know we do have a certain site kinds of very similar in the city of right you talk about the city of New York where you have a Port Authority.
You have an authority that is running that it -- that -- that is.
-- -- private in the sense that they have a bonding ability to -- the thing to do things like that and they are overseen and I think imaging is right and Jonathan I'm really surprised that -- You -- you are on the right you wanna drive on the left side of the rolling.
Yeah -- -- -- -- Always a privatized in any case we spectrum in the rallies and ties it hasn't always what happened problems at the rallies -- and the rights I'm not Chinese double -- that I didn't mean there's no.
That's fair -- and that and Jonathan Hoenig road trip we've established in the first part of the show but everybody stick around Israel a lot more coming up.