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The home front analysts on both sides of the aisle.
Now asking whether President Obama is still relevant.
After his DNC speech shine a spotlight.
On the voters' role in politics -- So you save.
The election four years ago.
Wasn't about me.
It was about you.
-- My fellow citizens you were the change.
Well that is a lot of questions and in a new editorial liberal New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd.
Is blasting President Obama for that very statement writing quote we want to change women did change us.
We're so -- we -- an idea of brimming with confidence we never should.
Let the congressional Democrats run wild with their stimulus spending on pork that didn't even create the right kind of jobs and she goes on an odd an -- In this -- Also -- -- by red state Eric and Eric ericsson's website as well that's the same question this morning about relevance from another perspective.
But I'm joined now by Tony say who is former press I aide to Republican vice presidential nominee Jack -- He's also president of talk radio news service and here's empowers Daily Beast columnist and Fox News contributor welcome -- to both of you good morning.
Good morning here's -- mr.
with -- obviously you know Maureen -- hadn't seen the latest polls when she wrote the fees over the weekend but but -- -- -- she she was.
Angry in this piece about that moment and and I remember that there were raised eyebrows at that moment -- We -- -- change we thought the president was the change that we were supposed to seek.
Really -- I thought he told everybody when he was running that we were the -- we were waiting for that was kind of his message was that.
Exactly exactly that point so I was really fascinated to learn that Maureen Dowd used to have be filled with hope.
For Barack Obama because I don't really remember that I remember her more making fun of him for being too -- feet and you know un American for not eating fried twinkies so I you know I think that -- -- this is such a disconnected from reality.
Column it in the same way that a lot of -- she's not the only one had been attacking Obama's speech when it was actually an extremely effective speech.
And and we've seen even in an appalling that you just reference.
That he hasn't gotten quite a good bounce out of it -- even -- five in Ohio so.
I I honestly do not know what she's talking about I had it was almost like she's referring to a different -- just not the speech that I heard Tony what you think about it.
Like I think that speech is actually been universally panned even in advance of -- New York Times hardly a right wing.
Publication said you know president -- just hasn't given it its region for years and I don't think Thursday night.
Was any exception that final night of the convention and you do see a frustration -- that this is a president who can't make an affirmative case for his own reelection.
Michelle Obama did a very good job at the Bill Clinton maybe even warmer.
-- governor Jennifer grand home but this is -- president -- really is just using these kind of socialist euphemisms like fair share fair shot.
Dividing America not -- that hope and change rhetoric that.
He was so powerful for using for years before and was able to get elected by such a wide margin then.
And this is really frustrating the true believers of which you know the doubts of the left the really are whatever they may have felt.
Four years ago they've been backing this present up well every turn.
And now -- know that British -- Internet just the latest you know interject here.
In that Erick Erickson at peace which is written by one of his reporters at red state he talks about what -- -- the president's relative relevant.
And it goes to issues that are also showing up in this Maureen Dowd piece which is whether or not.
He was the one sort of making the change that he was seeking.
And when you look at Bob Woodward's book it gives a couple of examples of you know -- time that Nancy Pelosi was talking to him about the budget.
According to Woodward's reporting she put the president on mute so that the people in the -- could continue their conversation while he was espousing something she says that's not true Woodward says.
It is according to his reports there's another one where John Boehner Harry Reid are discussing.
The budget in the white house with the president and they say to him you know what why did you leave the -- -- us -- -- And let us discuss it so and Maureen -- raises similar questions about whether or not he gave over the reins of leadership.
To members of congress over the course of of the first four years that is sort of the basis for this question -- relevancy here's -- -- thing.
Hard time following like is he irrelevant or is she destroying America can you really like it it's like he's -- all powerful socialists marxists.
You know guy who's like destroying America and and changing radically changing everything and now he's -- relevance is just very hard for me -- followed that I think -- -- entertainment and I know it's -- it's it's -- and you Republicans are constantly talking about how radical he has.
And now he's the relevance and you know -- Caroline and I didn't get to have you break letting you know -- not worrying doubt never supported him -- he's criticizing him from day one she's been on the document IG is finally the last four suddenly turn out on top.
Got back in the very good point if you're good it's a good point.
I think he's relevant and I hope he's relevant that's the.
The absence of our -- campaign.
Let's be frank about this Mitt Romney isn't exactly.
-- firing up the the right Winger or the base in this country who understands that we're not better off we are four years ago what is hopefully gonna fire them up is this abysmal record on economic leadership that we have to use the president.
As an association with so I hope he's relevant the issue here is has -- abdicated a lot of leadership.
Over the last four years a case can be made.
Where that Bob Woodward didn't his book the book by -- the amateur doesn't that look more -- data elect this I'll get by I don't I find it hard -- me.
-- -- And but Maureen Dowd who whatever she thought for years -- has been backing this president's agenda up in the New York Times for four years is finally saying enough is enough -- over him.
Never in -- I think.
I'm glad I get -- -- -- -- the next issue which is where do we go from here in terms of the debate does it become more substantive.
Because on both sides you could argue that that the conventions are about.
Rhetoric you know are about painting is sort of glowing pictures of the family is that two people who -- who want to continue to be president one who wants to be president.
Do we now that we -- debate -- and get more brass tacks about what has actually been accomplished.
Yeah I mean I think if the Romney campaign has their way yes but the reason it Obama's speech was so fact that I know was -- by a lot of people but they're wrong it was a very effective speech and the reason that was affected this because.
He is the word choice.
I think 21 times or she used in that speech and he he set it up to make this the choice not a referendum.
But the -- campaign wants as they want exactly what you're saying aren't that.
They want to talk about his record.
They want to say it out this is a choice between us and Romney and -- batter.
Now that Romney and I didn't hear any activity well violated their but that you you bring up an employee who want a choice seemed to wanna be choosing Ron this is a very modest and -- involved -- we actually gonna discuss that whole choice -- referendum issue with Britain's Hanson thanks for -- -- that's kind of the top of the hour.
Hairston Tony thanks so much.
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