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Less than two months to go until Election Day in a debate continues over voter ID laws.
Critics -- the loss or -- GOP ploy to suppress turnout and make it harder for minority voters to participate.
Supporters say voter fraud is real and the laws are important safeguard.
-- on a -- author of who's counting how monsters and your cats that your vote at risk and former member of the Federal Election Commission joins us now.
With some perspective.
Thank you for coming -- I know that you are on top of these cases.
But often as we've discussed.
When you have critics of voter ID laws on.
The argument goes and there isn't really a problem with with fraud and so these laws are only meant for suppression.
Yeah that's that's certainly not true and look in the last two weeks we've had.
More voter fraud cases.
For example the democratic candidate for the first congressional district in Maryland had to resign last week from the race -- because they discovered.
That she had registered and voted.
In both Maryland and Florida.
That's a problem -- that is a problem or listen another -- -- -- -- for people convicted in Little Rock, Arkansas.
For voter fraud including a state legislature.
-- -- who had to resign.
And he won his race through fraud a race that was one and only eight -- fraud can make the difference in a close election.
Actually in this race this presidential race is one of the tightest that we see it is and a -- it especially in states sound -- -- swing states that are very very close and pulling within the margin -- -- -- let's talk -- we had a former senator Norm Coleman on the show earlier and different topic but.
I noted to him that his case is -- the most -- -- -- -- Peterson developments and not everybody's aware of because it was a very tight race with now senator Al Franken.
But there's a lot more to the story after the election.
Al Franken was declared the winner after litigation by a little over 300 votes well since then we've learned that 11100 felons voted illegally in that election 177 of them have been convicted there -- dozens of the cases pending.
So we know the number of illegal votes was three times the margin of victory and was that an important case yes Al Franken provided the sixtieth vote the passed obamacare so that that election -- affected every single person in the country.
Arne -- -- play a little bit of Kerry Washington -- very famous actress and what she had to say at the DNC just a few days ago.
There are people out there trying to take away rights that are mothers.
And Howard great grandmothers -- -- Right that we thought our our right -- How are right big -- How are right up affordable quality education.
That could help air and meet the -- -- not.
As you touched on a lot of issues there -- person that she mentioned was our right to vote.
So how did those who support these voter ID laws then it turn around and -- can be the argument that this isn't about taking away anyone's right.
That there are legitimate and valid reasons for these laws because the public perception in some quarters is that.
This is about suppressing certain groups of people from being able about.
Well with the that's foolish in the history of these log shows that not to be true.
Georgia and Indiana had photo ID laws in place for more than five years they've had numerous elections is not suppress the votes.
Minorities is not suppress the votes of Democrats.
Look Indiana in 2008 had a photo ID law in place for the first time guess who won that state it was Barack Obama he was the first Democrat to in the state.
It's -- like thirty years and she should stick to Hollywood she apparently did know that if you wanted to get your credentials that the Democratic National Convention where she spoke he had to have a government issued photo ID.
Touche I will leave it there and -- and let this Washington responded take it up with you -- and carry our.
Thank you so much we appreciate your insights and I'm very interesting book a lot of interest -- thank you are.
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