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-- and now joining us live we want to bring in lieutenant colonel Tony shapers center for advanced defense studies and author.
Of operation dark heart always a pleasure to have you on an -- you get your perspective.
And and great to have you on right after Catherine's report.
So what you know some of the talking points that you've been speaking out today ambassador rice is -- the attack and Libya was spontaneous and there were no signs.
And the question out there -- -- -- did the government leave our ambassador sitting duck without protection what are your thoughts on this.
Oh absolutely and I'm I'm Sharia pasteurized is living in some science fiction universe.
-- -- she really believes her own words let me be very clear on this there's two levels of failure here.
Which resulted obviously tragic loss of this -- -- accounts I've about talked to a new one he was his heart was in the game is trying to do the right thing.
So what that said I think -- you'll have to look at here -- -- -- to the White House fighting so hard to maintain this this less than truthful merit first.
There's been a series of leaks since.
Obama came to office for Obama in office starting with Obama's wars of Woodward book which showed what we're focused on and what we could.
Collect intelligence against.
Further there's been leaked to the New York Times outlining all the things we're doing so the bad guys are adversaries it paid attention.
And now they've figured out ways to avoid being detected that's why this thing.
Was not front and center on our radar I think this investigation will come to show -- I'm I'm.
I'm forecasting that'll show that there was clear global level planning of this second -- 9/11 anniversary give me a break do we really again it gets so complacent and not understanding the significance of that event and the potential.
For bad things to happen to our equities and our people.
Clearly there was no attempt from what I can see of any reporting I've heard or people I've talked to -- -- on the ground there.
It indicates to me that anybody had any focus -- concern about the fact that 9/11.
Was a date of significance and we didn't beef up security there were no Marines in there.
And on and -- -- people of -- you know ask a question about how many were actually there for security.
Not enough obviously and the fact that we did not have Marines and Libya that I've I've -- is as a significant telling fact that there was really no concern.
So and to put that to be icing on the cake is.
We did have early warning let me be very clear and is Jay Carney is -- -- talked about we have no actionable intelligence that's code for.
We got information we just didn't want to listen so this that was that that that that the basically the nail the last veil and had a -- coffin.
They did not pay attention there is evidence of the things were going on there was an idol it was anniversary date and frankly.
This whole overall leaking of -- -- -- regarding our intelligence collection capabilities.
The layered upon layer.
Has resulted in this and obviously the tragic result is the death of an ambassador frankly I think you know the overall undermining of our security effort global.
And several -- -- you make you you make his political points and you also how.
And did your experience it is very interesting to hear what you believe -- the technical points on this argument.
Care -- head of the points as -- mentioned I mean we're looking at an event this is an unstable area I mean this was not like you're going into Chicago which is bad enough by the way.
We're talking about the fact that we're looking at a circumstance where.
And -- and and going after helping the Libyans we destroyed a country that's -- sad truth we destroyed the entire infrastructure think about that.
And so the people who we help are very happy.
But the ones who we we -- we took sides against Qaddafi.
They're very upset so you have allies in the western part of of of Libya who would be more than happy to open endorsed al-Qaeda which I think that's what we're gonna find here.
So that by the fact we've -- we've we've pushed this country down.
And to that level of a post Tito Yugoslavia for those who remember back in the nineties.
When -- -- -- Tito left.
We saw all the Bosnia Herzegovina problems happen there because the control which kept all these tried to check was gone same thing happened in -- so we are also.
Responsible for the current state of affairs within Syria.
And it wasn't within that lobbyists -- about that but it certainly Libya and frankly the reason we see that in Egypt because Egypt had a very strong military which help things together through the transition.
There is no such.
Try military able to sustain itself through this transition -- it could destroy the military.
And I wanna go back to one of your points and talking about -- well organized effort.
A do we have any indication as to what that effort entailed.
You know using you've said that they tracked him down they found -- and they killed him.
What do we know exactly our -- lol you know insight into how that took place or do you have a new hazard to guests.
-- out to all 33 point for a quick first off looks like there was at least some inside information to get.
To our bastard that they had to go through layers of security and -- basically to a safer coming to -- he was hiding out this is supposed to be secret.
So someone -- -- secondly there are foreigners present that is say that there -- members from Molly from other other nations which showed up there which is highly unusual I think that contributes to.
The fact this is likely an al-Qaeda strike.
And I think most most worrisome right now and I -- this interview today that apparently we have folks sitting on their hands.
A CI guys -- out giving out money trying to organize rather than doing the hard intelligence work of looking over the horizon.
The reason I say this because we we made this one of the concerns you guys are gonna say.
We may have funded fund this effort we've made they've given money to folks who actually participate in this pack or worse.
Some of the guns used in this attack may have been given to these these groups by us so we're very being very you know it's it's it's a bad news situation.
And it may get worse by the fact that we may have either funded or help -- arms to the very people who killed our ambassador.
All right and before -- let you go wanna share -- -- inviting our viewers to write and and chime in on the conversation and just before I think it by the U wanna leave you with this it's a comment coming in from mark has said.
I'm sure -- -- -- -- saying this but I just kind of assumed the State Department would make sure that consulates and embassies in North Africa and the Middle East.
Would have marine protection especially on the anniversary of 9/11.
It's -- it's called a policy of wishful thinking.
Don't get me wrong I think pres Obama one of the best intentions but nigh eve I think the whole issue is is based on not the night assumption if we get big bear hugs and be nice -- -- the gonna change their tune.
Even if even if we have allies there.
If people who still don't like this who will do everything they can kill us and I think we have to accept that as part of the risk of doing business in the Middle East.
And that's why we saw what happened happened.
Lieutenant colonel Tony Shaffer thank you so much for being with us always a pleasure and even on the channel today hopefully -- a lot more of you today.
I think -- thank you so much for joining.
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