US spends $70K on ads in Pakistan denouncing anti-Islam film
Actions raise questions on free speech
- Duration 10:51
- Date Sep 21, 2012
Actions raise questions on free speech
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He well as we watch more of the chaos today in Pakistan the American Embassy in Islamabad.
Is airing ads that feature President Obama and secretary of state Clinton.
On Pakistani TV's.
He had denounced a film.
That mocks the Prophet Mohammed.
Since our -- The United States has been a nation -- respects all faiths.
All efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others.
Let me state very clearly and I hope it is obvious.
That the United States government had absolutely.
Nothing to do with this video.
-- -- its contents.
America's commitment to religious tolerance goes back to.
The very beginning of our nation.
They spent 70000 dollars of taxpayers' money to run that had.
And -- and free speech questions in the process turning now to debate -- mark Hannah former aide to John Kerry and Barack Obama's presidential campaigns.
And Brooke Goldstein attorney and director of -- law fair project.
-- -- attempting to quell some of the anger I assume is the motivation but are the means.
The right ones broke.
Absolutely not first of all let's talk about Pakistan -- -- this is a country whose state education system foment anti American violence.
-- city children are taught in their schools to revered -- Honda to Revere suicide bombing.
And we think that this -- is -- quell anti American sentiment that's.
I don't think so look at these kids today between six and -- it comes out and these kids are being taught to chant death to America any friend of America is a traitor punish the blast -- -- is acceptable and -- honor of the prophet mark.
We had major problems over here and there is a question about whether this -- Is appropriate is it gonna solve it and is it appropriate.
Okay the answer to both those questions is yes and the reason is because of those kids.
That are chanting death to America I think everybody watching right now including and and Brooke and I will both agree that that is not just hideous but heart -- -- kids are being taken advantage of by foreign governments by Islamic radical groups to.
Be indoctrinated and and and -- propaganda that it teaches them to hate America why it shows you the problems our kids are gonna have.
Because those are going to be the adults of the future exactly exactly and so what does what can America do when foreign countries don't have the kind of free media system that we enjoy here.
We need to get the message out that.
For example this video that this went crazy guy in California produced that's so offensive to so many people.
Is not part of what America's values are all about America's values are about tolerance and nothing that you saw and President Obama is -- excerpt or Hillary Clinton's excerpt.
Was factually inaccurate it's important that that message gets out overseas and the seventh -- If -- -- agree with you okay not just part of America's tradition.
America's free speech tradition to give the highest protection to -- -- most offensive speech in fact.
Criticism of religion and criticism of government is the cornerstone of a liberal democracy.
The administration has been working since it's beginnings to undermine our first amendment rights of free speech on issues of national security.
Including militant Islam don't forget secretary of state Hillary Clinton had a three day closed door meeting with the organization of the Islamic cooperation.
This past December before the film came out.
And announcing they're gonna implement human rights Human Rights Council resolution 618 which condemns the use of the media to condemn religion because it.
There are two things that we agree on and -- that that.
This video was tedious and it is and it was disgusting and distasteful the second thing it's yes it's protected by free speech this isn't a free speech case President Obama the American government on -- curtailing this person's right.
To air this video -- to have these these hideous -- it's it's.
And then that the difficulty we see is when the president of Egypt and mr.
Moore -- I'm so it sort of an early on but the problem is you get a basic death warrant out on their lives -- make uses film overseas they in Egypt they've called for all of them to be arrested.
And if they're found convicted and they will be killed.
And so against that backdrop is it right for our president secretaries would be going in countries like Pakistan -- this -- in -- We denounce -- it's awful as opposed to saying.
We stand for something else in the United States.
I think it's really important -- foreign public sentiment to understand that this isn't what American dollar.
Are all about I think Salman -- put it best when and you know he's got a target on his head because of some of the anti.
The -- in the critiques he's made about Islam.
He said it best is that you know this.
This video has.
It as disgusting as it is is has the right to exist and I don't think.
The president or Hillary Clinton are doing anything to curtail it frankly this video maker the filmmaker has bigger problems to worry about than what that US government let me just finish.
-- we didn't discuss the South Park discussing a lot of talent there and -- love religion.
Disgusting since what is the State Department at film -- the fact of the matter is when the present -- the United States goes and chastise is your protected.
Freedom of speech he is stifling.
-- -- he's exercising his freedom of speech and I think it's important to remember that the president has the freedom of speech and so this Hillary Clinton.
They can distance and tell them if they want.
-- -- We are we here.
-- a lie okay the protests for pre we're pre planned and -- and Angela announced that event in that there's now evidence that it was linked to al-Qaeda also a press release came out from series of Egyptian.
Islamist terrorist groups.
Saying that we should storm the embassy -- because we wanted gitmo prisoners released so it had nothing to do with I don't disagree with anything.
Somebody didn't look how the film into what is premed at 100 -- -- -- I -- Can -- how these guys over.
I hope you guys -- start because -- I really wanna get to this point because many people believe.
That if we can make some sort of an outreach to some of these folks we can dial them back we can get them back from the abyss and say we're not that we're not -- -- that you may think we are.
But -- the -- on the other side is.
It you know you give them an inch and they'll take a mile in that a lot of these folks are looking to change American society.
By imposing their values on us how to talk to you guys about that -- the spectacle.
And they are complete this -- our children to deal with in twenty years accrue to this indoctrination in Karachi Pakistan our allies by the way.
For the children are chanting death to America.
-- joining me again Mark -- and Brooke Goldstein so that's what I wanted to ask you about his.
There is a notion that that their goal.
These to these radical islamists.
Is not just it to have us stay out of their hair but to actually change America to make us stand down from our principles of free speech and so on.
Which is one of the reasons why this ad with our president secretary of state is controversial -- -- And changes from with -- and we saw that.
In the Muslim Brotherhood -- document that was released in the Holy Land Foundation -- it was to get -- to undermine our own rights that is the essence of the creeping Sharia law here.
And the thought that we can -- keys Islamist terrorism by apologizing.
For our constitution is ridiculous.
And how we know that that's -- Egyptian embassy tried to do you.
Did you not put the press really -- apologizing for the film before the embassy was stormed and we see how well that -- about that -- This is not about appeasement at all what this is about is our public diplomacy professionals people of both political parties.
Making an assessment people whose brought their families to live in places like that in Pakistan.
And put their families in harm's way to serve our national interest making an appraisal that the most effective way of beating back this anti American sentiment in the region.
Is to present corrective messages about America's values.
And if these people like ambassador Chris Stevens in the three others -- died so tragically.
While serving our country that made the decision to do is not it didn't come from the Obama administration can't -- -- United States our government I don't.
-- -- about this but we saw how that worked out for ambassador -- I mean there's a question about whether you can reason with this particular faction.
Of of who radical islamists I think our free speech laws are based on the premise.
That you can reason with anybody that you can get a message across to that all human beings are reasonable people it's that when you're going up against -- These people if they get our message is correctly -- there's a free trade -- but you know free exchange free marketplace of ideas if you will that's what diplomacy is based on.
Now when you have state run media and Islamic.
Militants and and people indoctrinated in these young kids.
If they don't have we need absolutely a military solution to that we need to be dropping bombs on those terrorists but what we also need to be doing is dropping messages on the innocent people who are being brainwashed.
By them so that they understand that America is isn't what the people that -- -- Tonight marks sounds like President Obama this sounds like a lot like we've heard from reputable that recruit their own children as suicide bombers people that's -- -- bombs and blow children's -- to pieces which is what Pakistani terrorists do which is that the Muslim Brotherhood.
Advocates they're not reasonable people know of anything quite like a brilliant actress second let's just bring it back.
The Obama administration's policy.
Has been to stifle speech deemed critical of Islam from the beginning.
Okay the words is -- and -- hot -- being redacted from all counterterrorism training manuals.
Season FBI officials are being fired because they're deemed Islamic Filbeck.
They can't brief our counterterrorism community anymore and we had a Fort Hood report.
That cold this act of terrorism workplace violence they report about Fort -- that completely omitted the fact that major Nidal Hasan had connection to Islamist terrorist that he wrote an essay arguing for the painful liquidation of non Muslims.
And justifying suicide bombing.
All this for what say -- let's say.
I got to leave it that it's believe it is a rhetorical question and it has been for -- thank you both so much -- it.
I just you know one other guy and I and I mentioned -- in and -- talk about before about.
You think about probably have this country great and we're so divided right now this political season but you see what's happening overseas.
And it should bind us together as a country I mean look what we're up against it's not about Democrats vs Republicans right now it is about this country.
-- such an anti Americanism that exists in the world over watch.