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Daniel Pipes on what Westerners should do in order to be able to treat Islam freely and criticize it without fear
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I think we -- at a Philadelphia Daniel Pipes is standing by he is the president of the Middle East forum and a foxnews.com contributor.
He's got two pieces today that he has written and would like to share.
With our viewers I know that.
Some of -- quite provocative great to have you here today back to see you.
Think it.
They're talking about your -- when you -- -- that we general Mohammed cartoon a day the fact that you think that would be something that could generate some real.
You know it's -- -- A controversy and com I'm a conversation.
Because you think you'll be harder for business to mobilize Muslim -- tell -- more about this why you feel that way.
Let me start with the premise the promises that one we Americans have freedom of speech.
Freedom of speech does not mean -- kindergarten programs.
Being abusive nasty discuss their -- It doesn't mean.
Criminal student is a mean inciting to violence but it means that I can say anything I want about most anything.
And Arkansas secondly we live in a globalized world where communications -- much enhancement.
Whatever I say right now here can be.
Seen on the Internet anyway.
So when you put those two together you have the premise for free speech.
I can say we want you -- 21.
And indeed that's what happens when it comes to religion.
That there isn't a whole lot of respect for people saying nasty things about their loan and other religions all the time.
With the single exception that happens with that any violence or -- and that is a strong.
Muslims islamists in particular have a tendency to get very upset and to.
-- and kill as a result.
And I'm saying well.
Rather than retreat and say okay we're not gonna say anything that would protect you.
Let's do -- -- that's -- life if she lets.
Cartoons and other examples of freedom of speech all the time every day.
Until this on this quiet them through okay we can do about -- for more we.
The more rewire the more nasty things are so that we don't hear.
You really think that could be an upcoming meeting they would get tired of the unity they get tired of the rioting an entirely tax -- this -- go on a daily basis.
Well that's my speculation that -- right -- that you can't keep doing this on I don't know and indeed what's so striking is how much.
On on the other side of the anti Islamic there has now been an incentive for publication.
If you want to get Wilson hopes that it's not so hard to do.
And -- and -- Islamic types of picked up on.
We just saw few days ago French weekly come out with outrageous.
Series of cartoons -- German.
Nice things about that this thing I'm alive so.
Rather than.
-- encourage.
Delicacy.
And sensitivity.
-- and courage resilience and you know by the way I have some somewhat public figure being called all sorts of -- all the time.
I don't want about it if something goes with the territory this is just too much water and life was when -- -- we'll be President Obama just.
Think the thing I -- -- -- he had he had the same thing that people look you know make remarks about him attack him all the time but he celebrates every city that awful things about me right.
And you know I defend their right to do well.
Good that's what American presence of as an American and so let's maintain robust please.
What did you think of the president's overall speech to the United Nations today and his references to -- -- -- about free speech.
I thought the references to free speech -- -- was less impressed by his father remarks there was a lot about Middle East for the fall.
-- to free speech was.
Was sort of -- more exactly what.
Exactly but what what I look for an American professor of respect for the speech at an antidote to things you don't like this to say what you do life.
Not to -- the press or or.
Attack those who physically attacked those who think in the way.
Why is why I think -- American that a lot of heart a hard time understanding why there seems to be.
This real sensitivity.
Over the Middle East.
If any type of -- store -- -- have been -- is made about anything regarding the Iran even has just done as good as.
Quite a fun.
What is it that let us just what strikes that -- within those people what is -- that makes them react so.
Violently and and so.
Quickly to any type.
And reference.
-- for -- of the two main elements first is.
That traditionally in Muslim majority countries there was an absolute prohibition.
On same thing negative about.
Mom along respond to them.
And so there are no.
There there's no history you know palaces of readiness to hear that there's an outrage that this no one of the states.
Secondly.
I think more ominously there's no intent to applause from -- so.
Oppose Islamic laws.
This goes back to 1980 -- And the verdict by Ayatollah Khamenei -- some -- when -- said some of those two most important principle as those who were involved another group with the securities and if you.
The last second -- -- had a summer she rose attack vs vaknin and Elizabeth.
It was -- publication that completely outraged the Muslim world.
And Ayatollah Khomeini said you know what.
-- -- -- which -- -- and by implication -- saying that in Britain or United States or anywhere in the west.
You have to follow the same laws that we -- we don't ever say anything nasty about -- that you -- either.
So I -- behind this not so much a matter free speech.
-- -- -- And I -- no.
We've we've got our own laws and our cost effective.
We don't accept his -- law.
Wouldn't you think -- -- -- when the first report for coming out vet a video worry film once linked to.
The attack on our consulate -- embassy in Carolina and Libya.
That.
The other leaders were well received a calling for the arrest of that individual and really.
Even they know about free speech in our country it wasn't enough they were going to that -- it for the for the point of saying you know this guy needs to be brought.
The justice this person needs to be arrested this person needs to be deported.
And that even feel more anger when United States to -- that you know we have we -- when he said we don't condone it.
But he has a right to say -- used -- but he wants to say in this country that's part of our free speech life.
Two governments have.
Threatened not who -- boats -- look at who you're running in the -- and we're gonna come and get to.
An Egyptian wants to put -- the manager.
Arrest for -- -- in triple right for him and others so.
Through different methods one.
Clandestine won over one illegal one legal.
That also in Pakistani government minister.
Has put -- a 100000 dollar bounty on let's which the government itself as -- -- So to governments and a bit.
Declared him a wanted man what we have to protect them.
You may be.
Doing something which is offensive to them but it's perfectly legitimate -- and just as.
Margaret Thatcher it's and succeeding prime minister's protected.
Some -- for ten years.
We have got -- local -- or anyone else who's threatened.
In his message to free speech our right to -- it at all is that message getting out to dead mainstream audiences in these countries like.
Egypt and in Libya are adjutant -- general public.
-- I know we've -- Internet everything out there but.
Are they hearing it are they -- getting -- Has to this information to -- our classes.
Not only are they not area but the islamists in this country -- here there was just a parade on Sunday two days ago in -- city.
-- parade in which at least once people got up and said.
But this should be.
Freedom of speech attacking the -- I think it's wrong.
Should be make made illegal and other mom called the national security equipment states are within this country now -- voices say that this would be mentally.
So all the more reason to stand up for possibly -- We have freedom of speech that doesn't mean criminal freedom of speech but but there were interrogating and religion.
Saying nasty things about what -- happens all the time by the way most in school.
Muslims to -- a certain number of anti Semitic cartoons to be found in the from publication.
Are legion and are horrible.
So you know I'd be one thing if if he if he estimates.
OK nobody attacks anybody.
But in fact put this thing -- -- read this from the for the freedom to say it would ever draw whatever we like but you know Muslims.
You must.
About Islam and that is they have an -- -- pattern whereby Wilson supremacist and establishes that.
Most of them say bad things about -- most of no emotions when it's.
Well that might work and he took it doesn't work it's that we have to -- -- -- prosecute consistent know about -- except those.
What a bar.
And -- writing an ultra right -- speak exists that spoken freely without fear of retribution for anyone.
Muslims need to -- a little thicker skin for starters that's one of the comments from our viewers.
-- let me know that there are some Muslims who agree with and be very numb -- -- who -- countries like you to.
Precisely to have freedom religion freedom of speech and civil rights of those sorts of -- almost comes right now reports one -- himself as a possible.
And and then and subsequently that the numbers of Muslims who stood up and said you know we we.
We -- obviously.
So it's -- -- -- -- -- when Muslims and indeed that's almost non Muslims Christians Jews Hindus.
Buddhists who got it won't make mistakes and we don't stand up for this before sympathetic.
This is from the people so it's not it's not it's not so much religion that the.
I think his politics.
And we we thank you so much for joining us would.
Your insights and urge our viewers to check out here.
Your opinion pieces on our website mocking Mohammed is not hate speech this is from being a -- thank you so much sir thanks for joining us -- with your your thoughts and your comments.
