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-- and let the ball goes Whitman.
-- out here again.
-- yeah Obama.
Last week campaigning in metro Columbus.
And if you like that you'll get to hear a very similar version of it here in just a little bit as the president gets ready to touch down.
In Ohio this time campaigning in the northern part of the state up in metro Toledo.
Would candy which is the only real swing county in that part of the state.
And this is power play.
And I'm -- -- -- Internet here's the deal new polling out in Ohio.
Says that the state that Mitt Romney must must win.
Is looking less favorable for the Republican nominee.
President Obama has been.
-- Romney in that state for five months with blistering negative ads backed up by millions and millions of dollars.
And it seems like it's taken its toll had the desired effect for the Obama campaign.
Today we're gonna look at.
The state of play in Ohio.
We're gonna look at a tougher new -- that we're hearing from Mitt Romney.
As he tries to turn that around in the state both candidates are in the state today something that you probably gonna get to see good -- -- in the next six weeks.
We'll talk about that.
And we will talk about Libya and the distance between the assessments of what happened there from President Obama and Mitt Romney Republicans and the Democrats still fighting over that one.
And the good news for use -- Chris Wallace who knows a lot of stuff that much to ask tough questions.
Will be here.
But helping us through this minefield there -- -- of your favorites and you know Charlie hurt he is a columnist for The Washington Times.
And he is.
He's -- beyond his years.
Definitely definitely ready for for a man -- still in the shape of his life definitely is is is heavier than he has a right to be and that's what you like him because -- pretty ready to Internet.
And Tad Devine who we welcome back.
And we shouldn't say that -- -- -- you what's been your firm.
-- -- The Bible being that you plug in Charlie when you get firm we want you to plug it -- -- but I'm still the shape of my -- yeah I'm glad to have -- -- checking people -- -- -- was a senior strategist for Al Gore -- democratic strategist in good standing.
And also in good standing is our friend Ed Henry senior White House correspondent.
-- How are the folks who don't know -- they ready for the president to get there.
They're ready you know.
Yesterday were in New York City because both candidates were there you remember those dueling foreign policy speech is now charged.
And we've both been.
You're in the battleground of Ohio you know eighteen electoral votes -- Republican has won the White House.
Without carrying the Buckeye State and it's a challenge right now for Mitt Romney I saw wise man on the Internet in fact this morning.
I think things -- -- won't same.
That even if there's an over sampling of this New York Times CBS pulled in favor of Democrats.
The trajectory trajectory is not good for Mitt Romney in this latest -- because it shows.
It had been single digit lead here in Ohio for the president now it's a double digit lead.
-- off a few points the bottom line it's still trending in the president's direction.
Why largely because the economy which obviously -- a bit ironic.
For the Romney campaign if we had said six months ago that in Ohio the economy would be the critical issue you would expect.
Mitt Romney would be up but it's been a bit complicated because unemployment rate in the state of Ohio to -- Little bit better lower then the national average the Romney campaign trying to make the case that has something to do with the policies of this Republican governor here Jon basic.
But of course is a complicated argument to make because Mitt -- still a lot of other states around the country making the case that the president's.
Economic policies nationally have failed.
It's hard to pick off some of these individual states are doing a little little bit better take.
While cycles of the president's -- Because of John -- -- Well there's that but how about.
Let the Obama campaign has put on Romney in that state it's been in very tough very personal campaign.
And it seems almost tailor made to Ohio as they talk about Romney's great wealth and outsourcing is a huge issue in -- It is and -- the president today is gonna push back on any issue.
A sort of related all that which is China trade because.
The Romney camp -- you know sees the potential opening here with white working class voters that they really need to turn out in big numbers in a while.
For Romney to have a comeback here and get those eighteen electoral votes and that's to make the case that the president has not been tough enough against China.
And that is meant thousands of jobs being lost in battleground states like Ohio here we're told the president is gonna push back by laying out some of the things and he thinks he's been.
-- on -- China also make the attack in some of those -- you've noted.
That about going back -- -- Bain Capital days the president's made the case that Mitt Romney was the -- -- -- if you well they called a pioneering outsourcing.
And now you have -- those tax returns for Mitt Romney.
-- back in the personally invested in it in a Chinese electronics company.
That has also provided fodder for the Obama campaign.
Ed Henry who's pocket square mine has been pale imitation we thank you very much for your time today we wish you the best of Buckeye State.
Good to see -- with the herd on Charlie don't have to -- every every -- every time.
All right so to be about -- instructions to put her -- -- Charlie we will begin with you mr.
hurt and we will show you the aforementioned polling.
In the state of Ohio and let us its -- allow us to see.
Obama vs -- in Ohio now.
It's 5343 in mid August it was 5044 -- we'll have a word later about polling and how to read them and what's important we will do that later in the show I promised.
But as Ed said.
Whatever the whatever the real number is in the state.
That's not a trend line that Mitt Romney likes.
No not at all.
And the fact that duke we're talking about you know about that outsource your chief retirement China or that -- is -- -- trying to be.
It all these other things is is further evidence that it.
Romney has failed to make a sort of larger.
Full throated unflinching attack on President Obama on the economy and just smeared the whole thing.
On Obama instead it is they've allowed -- the Obama campaign -- to within a stipulated.
Brown is not a very good.
Which is a which I think is actually not a bad thing I think he should we embrace that run within his talk about that good at this but yeah but I'm well.
-- them out of politics I am not.
Let's say everything right economic and and he should have embraced.
That that secret recording and just said yes this is me this is what I do I see things you know I'm a blunt talk are walking in and I fix things that's.
That is at least appealing and I think a lot of it would be like OK but instead -- sort of he's muted a lot of that and well any is given that this wonderful opening I think to the Obama campaign to come men and and admitted -- but this whole.
Argument on its -- so that did he do that that they can't you know they can't say this or that because it of Kasich being that you know that the governor it's it's it's just -- runs he's allowed the message to get completely -- Had the do things -- been pretty simple for the Obama campaign if they can keep Mitt Romney from winning Ohio.
They can keep Mitt Romney from winning the presidency and that's something certainly that the Kerry campaign in 2004 pride against George W.
Bush -- the block and they're almost did you know but by very small margin.
It almost seems like the entire Obama campaign has been tailor made for Ohio the messages.
The way that they've done it talking about.
Multi millionaires who have Swiss bank accounts and stuff like that.
I think that's right and number one they've run a good campaign in Ohio and in all the battleground states I think that's why deleting them in Ohio and all the battleground states.
Every two I don't think it's just a case -- to look at this polling and news that went to Ohio polls last couple of days he's presence had ten and one.
In -- the other problem if you have to polls that same time.
Saying the same thing basically say that averaged out of that quintet.
-- error -- zero.
Okay we'll have to both of sentencing is inning and I know in the sample -- effort to several of the samples very democratic -- -- sample and -- but that doesn't a lot of -- you have a final thought I would -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- take when I got him just gonna say one thing about it.
That's probably true sample is probably very democratic you -- like there's more people self identifying as Democrats and they don't.
Ask your pro life it's.
Something look at the state but the strategy in Ohio -- Obama has been.
The economy is better -- and is -- capitalize on that but it's been a lot about that Mitt -- not the guy for you that he's not interested -- Yes I think that you know this statement.
You know doing this for five or six months now that they've done it effectively in the disconnected -- from voters there but listen it's not just from me I mean -- -- -- and satirist but it is still Nelson's way ahead in Florida and an apologist can look to.
I think this is happening in a lot of places and finally my firm.
Which we mentioned before -- are -- mentioned about we we feel we do a lot of caucus you know work in North Carolina and Iowa and Pennsylvania.
States across the country Illinois.
And we're seeing it in state -- races we're staying seeing it in state senate races and when that starts happening I mean that's how it happened for the Republicans 2010.
It's beginning to happen for the Democrats now 2012.
Okay -- talk about that and what Mitt Romney could do to change that trajectory and we will allow Charlie to play.
Fourth on that subject when we return from this brief interruption.
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Why is there wasn't.
Rob me -- and Romney Iran and run they -- I am very god that's right.
And that should have been followed by a sad trombone as.
Mitt Romney correcting the crowd cheering.
Four Paul Ryan Ryan Ryan Ryan they were saying he's -- no Romney -- Romney -- don't forget about me folks.
And this is power play and as Mitt Romney was.
They're in I believe that was -- -- Ohio.
There is a lot of enthusiasm on the Republican senate take -- for Paul Ryan certainly.
And part of that comes from.
The fact that Ryan.
Was seen as a huge -- that Mitt Romney laid down in favor of a different strategy than the one that he had been pursuing.
That instead of talking about.
Who is the best manager of the American economy and having -- competency election to having a big -- election about the size role shape and future and cost of the American government.
And we are hearing again from Mitt Romney.
Little bit of that old town is starting to come back so will work can he stick with that we have people who know including Charlie hurt -- Tad Devine.
Okay -- so let's start with you.
For Mitt Romney -- -- about this in the power play today which will delight you for only the click.
Of your malice or you have to do was on Twitter politics -- -- and you have a beach today.
But here's a -- from me.
Of government that that's entirely foreign to any thing this nation has ever known.
That's -- Mitt Romney described.
Barack Obama is -- policies keep this speech that he gave there was.
Eight pointed critique not of who's -- better manager of the economy.
But what he says is an unaffordable unsustainable.
In liberty life.
Yeah well I mean I think it does the smartest strategy at this point would be too for that army to take a page out of Barack Obama's playbook.
Which is due to go fiercely negative and to do it hard and to do it again unflinching -- he he it's always like when if he's such a gentleman.
That when he goes out there at any campaigns that you gentlemen.
Which is say -- he doesn't point out that the differences the way he should and end this and again the only appealing the only way this guy.
Can make of reasonable argument that he should be depressed -- Is that he is going to be to the businessman walks in fixes everything and does everything and and he's just he's.
That -- business.
The U titans yeah there there there they don't question themselves they don't they don't.
You know they're not worried about hurting people's feelings -- just say things and they and they fix things and and and that should be that his entire strategy.
And he's only in any stilted to sort of do that I just don't think there's plenty of time I think that you -- -- -- the polls they've played it's still early of the election were held tomorrow.
But we don't -- prices it's not but -- off.
Probably happens that now that was sent her rumba that was -- -- about it.
The to -- the the problem for Romney is they have a strategy.
That previously said.
Barack Obama is a really nice guy and we really like and we totally understand why you voted forum.
He's fine were racially cool we're sensitive we dig it it's -- you know it's it's just great but we also understand.
That he hasn't done a super job so we'd appreciate it and I wrote today.
That -- I'm delighted delighted me so much that will go ahead and I do your business owners that I want that I want to hear it again nothing we -- -- artery not obviously that you haven't pored over this at great length.
But I compared him to an insurance salesman.
That said now our policies are better then your current carriers.
If you don't mind me saying so ma'am so there was a bit of these sort of plaintive message to it.
Canned heat though engage in the kind of campaign -- talking about without being.
Marked down as a jerk who is a racist mean rich guy.
Well it's going to be tough.
I think time is running -- you know give us our vote no and a couple of days now and the selection in this guy who you gonna places where the early votes is much 40% of some places 50% of the votes of so -- -- -- make a move he's got the debate that's probably is one big opening up and I agree that.
In order for Romney to gain ground he's gonna have to make it clear to the American people that there are substantive differences between he and the president.
And that these policies have real consequences for the life.
People and they haven't done it yet they've been all over inflation a bank shot to -- -- pool for the terrible politics.
This is that there is -- very well say.
Urgency there's two -- of urgency here.
-- -- -- -- -- less than six weeks away from the election but the other thing is that the urgency to make that change while Obama well -- has often pointed out.
That he thinks his way of doing things are superior to the presidency.
To the president's.
There seems to be lacking the sense of urgency that if you don't make the change now that the country's headed off a cliff which is what a lot of conservatives believe.
Well and I think a lot of people who.
You beyond people who you're consumed with politics but a lot of this is only a small business owners out there -- they -- absolutely believe that and they and they feel that.
And and I think we're going along to tell us think that it -- He has to be very serious.
This series this is not funny this is these -- not games he needs to to to be sort of put in the in his mind if he's talking about kids he's talking about children being handed this massive debt load.
And an yet another entitlement program that.
That you know the government than ever proven track record with keeping these things solvent.
These are serious serious issues that and there's a lot of anger and a lot of fear not not it's not based on race or or anything like that but -- -- genuine concern about preserving the sort of the American system.
And and and you know three you know through free society that that.
Run but very very pointed campaign without being vicious and nasty or -- over the line but but you've reached the point up to stark differences and and and he's not.
He should yeah.
-- why -- the.
Romney campaign spent so much time do you think worrying about what the press says they seem to be very concerned.
About what the media narrative is right though I think most people could've told him a long time ago that it wasn't going to be great -- Well I think you know listen I've been.
Sitting at the same tables -- privacy and every morning we get a lot of negative coming in on time and what it does is that it overwhelms the campaign and if you can't figure out how to break out of that.
-- That happens then you're you're gonna succumb to it and in and they haven't figured it clear way out -- And you know part of the problem I think is substantive.
I agree I mean if you look at those closeness of the Washington Post the only attribute he won in one state at about cloning is she's an actress and he was two points ahead on deficit the debt.
And in Ohio so that was the only decent daylight inside the whole poll.
And you -- the situation well let's go to the daylight again this deal please give Kelly yeah there's a problem.
When you go to the de LA so well that my economic planners have a massive tax -- for really rich people and I'm gonna cure the deficit same time that's the problem.
Just want a massive tax cut for everybody though -- -- internal yeah away.
-- -- -- I don't know why that's a difficult argument to make because the whole notion that we want to do that the government should have more money and -- and you know.
It is just to me seems like a losing argument -- among you know -- in all sectors but.
They're not succeeding that argument right now OK gentlemen we thank you.
Very much you are kind and helpful and Smart so we like all of those things.
Internet here's what power plays as successful Republicans you know what they do.
Ignore the press and say what they were going to anyway it drives people crazy and you'll get a lot of negative articles written about -- New York Times.
But the truth is not a lot of people in western -- Ohio or reading the New York Times showed like George W.
You just say what you're gonna say and you don't care what they say about it we're gonna take a quick break but when we come back.
-- glad tidings for you Internet mr.
Sunday Chris Wallace will be here and we will talk in fact about what the heck is going on foreign policy and how it's shaping this race.
He's talked to some of the biggest newsmakers and had some of the most.
To use a word that I shouldn't -- -- impact full interviews on this subject but so stick around.
The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.
But to be credible those who condemn that slander must also condemned the hate we see and images of Jesus Christ that are desecrated.
-- churches that are destroyed.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Well I think they want to do their very best to keep the people of America from understanding exactly what happened.
They they we expect candor we expect transparency particularly as relates to terrorism.
And that was in miniature the debate between the two between the two presidential candidates.
Barack Obama talking about intolerance.
And blasphemy of the Prophet Mohammed the founder of the religion Islam of Islam.
And Mitt Romney saying that he got it all wrong that in fact what's going on in what went on -- Ben -- at the US consulate there was a terrorist attack.
And that the administration is not coming clean.
On the subject and this is power play welcome back.
And welcome back thank goodness to Chris Wallace mr.
Sunday the -- fortunately FOX News Sunday with Chris Wallace.
And its interest saying it must you've got a lot of moments like this in your career.
It must be -- -- -- when the interview that you did with ambassador Susan Rice a couple of weeks ago when she came on the show and was fairly adamant.
About it being a spontaneous event in Ben Ghazi.
Has now become an albatross sort of hanging around the neck and the Republicans keep chasing after.
So you must be pretty pleased with yourself.
You know if you honestly we gotta hope that people are gonna come on and then and tell the truth and I'm not saying that she was knowingly lying but the the argument that the ambassador -- was making.
That day was preposterous and -- you kind of knew it because.
Here you the president of Bolivia saying that it was a pre planned attack al-Qaeda is saying it was revenge now sometimes groups claim saying is that they didn't.
But but you know all of the information was that there was -- directed to fire that was direct fire there are PG is there were machine guns.
Susan Rice kept saying that this is a spontaneous demonstration that spun out of control.
As Susan Collins the senator from Maine and that and the co chair of the committee and Homeland Security in the senate set.
You don't people don't show up at protests Karen RPG it's.
Right and today is better yesterday you saw -- the head of the provisional government of Libya.
Saying that there won't even protest before that that it was that this was that this was an attack.
That perhaps the protesters showed up but that the first wave of attacks can't even before there were protests.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Afghanistan here's my frustration.
With the -- Romney campaign when I say frustration I don't mean the sense I'm rooting for them I'm really not.
But if you want to football game you want both sides despite their best you don't want one side to play well on the other side of the -- and outside the call to keep fumbling the ball.
This is a real seems to need to be a real and I don't mean in partisan that it's and it's a real opening for the Romney campaign.
To go after Obama on foreign policy this is the first terror attack on his watch.
Not give good information -- at least the first week and why he hasn't gone out and -- yes he did have comments and interviews with Carl Cameron other reporters.
-- a couple of lines in his speech but why he doesn't do what Obama did in 2008.
It -- a concerted TSA announced today.
Friday I'm gonna give a major speech on foreign policy.
And and deliver and make it a big event a major critique of Obama's foreign policy and why we are weaker.
In arguably in the Middle East in that part of the world in the war on terror that we were when he came in.
And and and you know with a springboard off and as I don't understand I've talked to the campaign.
I don't understand why he isn't that why I would expect that we see something like that and weeks to come when you I mean it is okay bye weeks -- -- it's the big stories.
-- I mean look for -- to their only six weeks left.
But but why wouldn't you do it this way and why wouldn't it be a good springboard -- know the first debate is on domestic issues.
But you get it out there you did change the narrative isn't about the hapless Romney campaign narrative is.
Romney taking the fight to Obama I don't understand why they wouldn't do that.
All right so.
-- -- going to be talking to this weekend well we're going to be done talking to Paul Ryan yes you are we are we're gonna happen maybe I'll ask -- that question.
We're gonna have an exclusive interview on Sunday with the vice presidential nominee and they -- -- -- situation because he's.
There are a lot of people who were saying that -- who thought when Romney picked Ryan -- mid August.
That this was a statement -- the -- of a new phase -- 2.0.
That they were gonna have become much more for reform.
Agenda -- candidacy.
And it hasn't happened and a lot of people and we had Scott Walker the governor of Wisconsin on the show this week.
Are frustrated because they say we wish that they would let Brian be Ryan and that Romney would pick up a little bit off Ryan and again.
I don't not quite sure you're gonna pick Ryan why you wouldn't then.
Push his agenda.
By that you're just going back to New Hampshire just because you like you and I don't even know -- we already we're already took for dinner -- -- I -- -- -- restaurants in Manchester and some very good ones there are some very good -- in Manchester this is true.
We were talking about that earlier about bold vs.
Less bold for Romney we heard a little bit of boulder yesterday from him on the stump in Ohio.
But he he doesn't seem to be comfortable and that's based do you think he can stay there now can he sustain six weeks of the -- of pushing harder and being tougher.
Well you know they have had all along this theory he and Stewart -- is the chief strategist for the campaign and the strategy has been that.
It's a referendum on Obama that all they have to do was continue to make the case -- Obama you know isn't working is one of the lines goes -- army can't afford them.
That you you make that case -- -- -- -- and you present Romney as a credible alternative but not with a lot of specifics and not with the very bold agenda to use that phrase.
-- -- It's -- perfectly legitimate theory but as you look at the polls it doesn't seem to be working and you would think.
You got change and so I don't know if if I were in his situation if it you know and if you -- sit there and say well this is working let's try something different.
This is -- -- if ms.
rice had checked her Twitter account she would have been up to the minute instead of days behind GS has great strength and my tanks as what you what is -- -- the first air attack on his -- what about Fort Hood.
You certainly could argue that but I I I would distinguish between a lone wolf and that kind of thing you know unfortunately is always gonna happen one could argue they could have handled.
-- dollars on better than they did but this is a concerted attack overseas.
But what doesn't have to be overseas not a lot of Muslim but a concerted terror attack on the US installations I would make some distinction.
Chris Wallace is making time for you Internet because he's like you and you like him so mr.
-- we thank you very much for making time my pleasure and sure.
In in light of the Jewish high holidays Charles Krauthammer was not on the panel with special report last night it's.
It's very understandable I hope you'll forget what it's like cynical tactics like sandy -- he's not gonna pitch.
-- -- -- that's the deal.
But I wanted to take the time that we normally give over to Charles to tell you this about -- as you read polls here's something to remember what most polls do.
He is they look at a -- into the sampling of human beings and then tell you what they said some polls wait.
There averages and they go through they -- a certain number of Republicans and a certain number of Democrats and a certain number of independent.
And then take samples until they get to those numbers but most polls like the quinnipiac poll that's out today.
What they do is just take a large sample and hope that they find the truth -- -- they're looking for -- -- buyers but really what they're doing is just taking a broad sample.
And coming up with something so when you see.
Democrats outnumbering Republicans by eight or nine points or something like that.
That really can be a reflection of what the attitude of the electorate -- More than them trying to skew the poll on purpose so as you look at polls remember this more than anything else don't worry so much about the number this is not a score in a football game.
Worry about the trend.
Look at and pay attention to which direction the trend is moving because even a bad apple with bad sample can still tell you the direction of the electorate as long as it's consistent.
In the quinnipiac -- certainly is one of the most consistent in the business so it's when I pay attention to and you probably should to we have to go sadly.
But gladly we can tell you that Gregg Jarrett is in for Jonathan Hunt on the hunt that's coming up next which I know you like.
And we will like to see you back here tomorrow same time same station have a great --
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