Friday Lightning Round: 2012 & the media
Panel sums up this week's hot topics
- Duration 6:24
- Date Sep 28, 2012
Panel sums up this week's hot topics
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Lightning round hole I should say this week 2012 and the media won with 45%.
Of the votes.
So amends kind of vague but.
Media and -- John.
What role do you think the media is playing.
In this race is it significant is it making a difference and will it affects people's vote.
I think it is simulate I think basically the mainstream media and I used to be professional media critic has just gotten about as corrupt.
In the aggregate there are there a specific individuals living irresponsible people but.
The way that they.
Have covered the -- -- since the conventions where basically anything inconvenience for the Obama campaign was cast as racist.
That -- this seems to be this.
Mad rush to just simply declare Romney dad and move on it's always got to the point where you think MSNBC is going to announce that.
If Romney doesn't pull out soon he's gonna ruin his chances in 26 team.
And I think it match it's always the reason why things bush reels -- major media matters less.
And they have less of the control the environment when a lot of people running it off but it's still it's it's sometimes breathtaking -- job.
Well I I don't know MSNBC fits my definition mainstream media -- there's a contradiction in what you consider -- -- on the one hand there's a smaller audience which is through.
And on the other hand -- -- might be affecting.
This campaign and I don't think those two things or are consistent -- mean if the audience for mainstream media is smaller than networks and the big newspapers.
It's having less of an impact on people on public opinion but it's also controlling where the conversation goes the campaigns pay attention to with a straight political reporter reporters pay attention the climate created -- they put up.
-- couple polls number five here news organizations are spending more time defending.
President Obama and attacking Romney 47%.
Romney -- your -- 16% both received 21 present the next one.
Focusing more on presidential candidates or news coverage silly issue serious issues and they've seen.
The split the news coverage silly issues dominating.
Charles your thoughts.
The role of the media in the campaign there and auxiliary of the Obama campaign.
They had to relocate to Chicago didn't save the traveled.
Look the way that if you look -- there's any issues have they've been covered.
For example in Charlotte.
The removal of Jerusalem from the the a statement by the party -- you vs the huge amount of coverage that Republicans who won't give -- over the abortion language.
Or for example of the way the media have covered the bump in the road comment which you probably had made -- -- story for a week.
The vs how they -- the Romney's statement when the Cairo embassy issued this groveling statement.
About free speech and then video.
On the day of the first writing.
Outside the US embassy.
Their coverage of Obama got on his gaffe which was -- a major -- Was minimal it was almost ignored the Romney stories lasted for three days at a time when US policy in the region.
Was in collapse which is almost entirely ignored.
Now I think of what we saw the -- of how people conceive this is exactly right.
They watch and they see and it's quite obvious which way and advice is going in a way -- I think you can excusing Hussein will they were in the euphoria.
The Obama campaign that was the idea of the historic cut advent of the first African American presidency.
What's the excuse in 2000.
Don't what about polls that's next topic.
There's all this angst about polls and how they're done.
That -- weighted towards Democrats.
The fox -- was Democrats blustery.
Pollsters explain it different ways.
People are upset that it's it's.
Turnout model that is more modeled after 2008.
Perhaps this year.
Your thoughts about fairness of the polls yeah -- -- I think the pollsters Muslim posters are doing the best that they can and a lot of them if you don't pick some screens.
Then you're basically just thrown a bunch of random numbers up -- -- you have to have some methodology.
And the 2008 numbers the problem is that's -- kind of like a magnet next to accomplice.
It's pulling things didn't mess up the measurements the 2008 turnout for Obama was so huge that it infected it hit FX all subsequent screenings and have even factored in its with a way to and other things that still -- it.
What I look at now more -- anything else in all this chaos is the independence because six months ago we were told this whole thing was going to be caught it and decided by.
Independents independents are still split.
And Mitt Romney in a lot of these swing states is actually decisively winning.
Among independents so whatever is going -- the Democrat plus Democrats -- I don't know but independents right now are still evenly split Iran is one of them.
This reminds me that.
Famous comment I think was -- Pauline -- I think -- back nine -- -- -- -- how -- Nixon -- I don't know anybody who voted for him.
A lot of the reaction I think to these polls is from people who don't know anybody personally who's voting for the candidate they oppose and then they look at a poll is -- how can this be happening.
And part I think this reflects the fact that the electorate is so polarized and so sordid geographically.
The people really aren't aware that there could be significant numbers of people and others Charles.
-- the polls are flashes in time they are not they tell people.
You don't say you're Republican or Democrat you say which party you identify with now so.
That should factor into people's thing but that's always been true he had been there rather predictive if you look at the past elections.
I don't think there's any conspiracy I think that's a mad idea.
I think if you accumulate all the -- -- together you get a fairly small margin of error if you add up all the numbers so I think they're probably reflected.