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Goldberg: Are the polls rigged?

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    Bernie examines misleading polls

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Thanks -- listen Bill O'Reilly in the week days -- -- segment tonight the latest polling out today as President Obama up by two points in two polls three points in the Rasmussen deal.

But really the polls don't mean very much right now because of the upcoming debate on Wednesday after that today.

-- take on more importance -- some North Carolina purveyor Bernard Goldberg dot com mr.

Goldberg so -- -- watching.

The debate the last two weeks about you know how certain polls overweight Democrats -- that they don't really tell you the truth and you said.

I say that first of all you're right that whatever the polls are saying tonight.

They may be saying something very very different in a few days after the first debate.

The part that baffles me.

Because I follow all the polls.

Part that absolutely baffles me is I have no idea none.

If they're reliable I have no idea if there reflecting reality and Mitt Romney is really losing.

Or if there's so overweighting the Democrats.

That.

The polls -- giving us the wrong impression.

One day I see a poll that says.

Mitt Romney is not only losing nationally.

But he's losing in every single battleground state.

Then I hear Dick Morris and his polls say that Mitt Romney is gonna win by seven or eight points my head is.

Right then nobody I don't know I mean nobody really knows so the post mortem on this elections can be very fascinating.

Because Rasmussen was the best in no way to know for that's why we we put more credibility into them.

Than the others but here -- here's uninteresting day.

The internal polling I understand.

From.

The Republican side -- they take their own polls that they don't publish sites.

In and that allows them to buy television time in certain areas that they need help it.

The internal polling says that they are falling behind in Ohio in particular that that's a real trouble spot for them now so.

It's almost impossible to quantify everything like that but I don't think the polls are crazy wrong but I do think that there probably in favor of Barack Obama one -- two point.

It's well -- okay I'll buy that.

Let's let's let's talking about postmortem so let's do this let's say.

Dick Morris is right.

Let's say Mitt Romney wins big and the final polls don't reflect that.

Then there's gonna need to be some kind of investigation that's right.

Yeah cause because.

Pat Caddell who you had on earlier who is a very Smart guy who like quote extensively.

In a slobbering love affair.

He thinks the media have become so corrupt during this election cycle that the -- screwing around with the polls personally I don't believe.

The polls -- are -- I do not believe that I don't think they get together to let me -- -- let me stop -- there again.

Ring -- is an interesting word.

Every one of those pollsters -- to New York Times NBC news Wall Street Journal Washington Post every one.

-- goals that the use in the same model in 2008.

Today right and they all know.

That the -- it's not going to be as strong run in twelve was eight so they know that -- model is flawed but they don't care.

If that if that's if that's precisely correct.

Then that does slide into the -- it that does slide from simply being bad science into something more sinister.

Because.

It's not realistic to think that the 2008 voter turnout model.

Is valid in 2012.

Right and if there in fact if there are in fact doing that.

An aunt and if if I know it.

They know that it's not a good model then you do have to wonder Pat Caddell is on to something again.

I'm not a conspiracy type of guy so I'm not saying it's -- but if they're using a bad model.

And then they not only do polls bill then they write about their own polls and it it creates an impression that it's time but it.

-- here's a driver eight there is -- Romney.

There is no government agency that investigates the -- because we know it's -- media if it's the media that should should investigated and I'm not holding my not a good luck because this would be the same media.

That's doing a lot of the -- you know look so they're doing the poll is so distracted they don't remember three days ago what happened.

This is what the -- bank side.

We can make a mistake nobody's gonna remember will just wipe it off the blackboard.

And then we'll say whatever we wanna say they're not -- own up to anything I hope I hope you remember.

Because right into the election right after the election I hope you do.

One of two things well you're gonna come back and we'll run down all the polls.

Oak all of annual flu including the conservative polls it's actually look good -- is gonna win by eight points because at that doesn't happen.

I mean I hope you I hope you questioned some of these it'll say what we're thinking about what we all you have opinion ought to set up from -- out -- We're you know he's going to be swing in.

And you I -- Romney I murdered -- Martha -- going to be you know that they -- let me reflect my bias I hope.

Dick Morris is absolutely correct well a lot of people do -- and you know but the polls were really get a sort of pay attention to them.

Monday after the debate.

It's gonna take three -- four days for the debate to sink in the beyond the Internet that's what most people gonna watch by the way not on her lifetime.

Because he'll be doing whatever -- people are doing dancing singing karaoke.

Whatever.

But it'll get around to -- -- -- -- and then Monday we'll -- Spreading -- everybody draws Krauthammer on -- will pinpoint that Romney's biggest mistake in the campaign so far.

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