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Joined in the studio hill by bill Daley former FBI office are.
And Tom rusty and that they no that's ball rice and Bill -- and Tom Ruskin over the other side.
I thought Tom Ruskin we don't -- is former NYPD detective and president of CN.
CIA operative is also with us but -- -- usual -- -- good to see gentlemen up here festival and that's just get to this this Border Patrol agent if you don't mind.
And bill.
It's that tragic these circumstances and -- you know we always think of cops dying in the line of duty we think of -- troops so often but I border agents are at risk.
I'm a great deal as well as -- was just outlined how absolutely and I mean as you look at the the people and the pending in the money -- involved down on the border moving drugs through any and all the other criminal elements that they possibly face.
They truly are in the -- literally in the line of fire each day sewage as you talk about it troops overseas in Afghanistan and elsewhere.
Who -- in -- these people really are in the forefront and are facing.
These very -- and divisive issues of -- of money corruption of people trying to tunnel people trying to bring people in illegally.
It's it's a very massive issue and they you know we really -- them a different matter and -- Not a I mean there's a limit to what she couldn't do in those situations you're coming up against.
People who all the to a desperate.
Man I guess.
These sorts of incidents going to happen you never know what you're gonna confront until you're there and you know as a law enforcement officer.
You don't know.
How to deal with this situation other than to come to the person approached them and trying taken into custody.
They know in your head if they're wrong they know if he'll use it and they know to what extent they'll go to and to try and -- -- and family.
Both let me just for -- -- here as it is a former to follow the justice lawyer.
How difficult game you could you arrest these guys.
On the Mexican side of the border or even on the on this site but -- the Mexican nationals.
How hot is it then to prosecute these people.
Oh it didn't.
You don't want to -- -- -- problem -- the court systems are overwhelmed and you know everyone dinners or one or not enough resources to go around it you know the enforcement resources -- through the judicial resources on there.
Probably don't have -- -- to put these people win.
But they're really wanna do is throw back across borders quickly as possible infection again next time it's relatively -- right up there with you -- doing is to have insurance instrument trained service this coming home in the opening -- car and dropping -- on -- on the -- media and -- General -- these agents are aware through intelligence they know that right across the border -- great documentaries made on this.
Where they -- as he -- some of the drug cartel Ohio to look for are preparing to bring.
Drugs into the country either -- -- Lander with vehicles so they're well aware that these people -- literally.
You know cross border almost like an easy -- -- Guantanamo -- you know we think -- -- just just -- shot away and rightly impatient -- -- every days -- Tell me this -- along token there is still -- obviously I'm an investigation ongoing.
Regarding the attack on the US consulate in Ben Ghazi.
Libya what's your sense of the investigation.
It seems that we're taking.
A long time.
To get some awesome as it is that naturally this situation as complex as this and as far away -- -- us.
No normally we'd be on the ground we've been going through the embassy and we -- You know the FBI and the forensic people would begin gathering evidence to determine.
It's taken them a long time to get in there I -- we have marine troops.
In the area that could easily assist the FBI and secure that location.
But it's it's taken them -- long time to give him there and you know it's gonna raise more questions next week in the congressional hearing.
Bill did the FBI is supposed to be deleted this is a former FBI officer of what's holding them -- annual view.
Well first of all they've been there they've been living within a couple of days of being asked you win a much like the investigating the bombings of the U2 US embassies back in 1990.
They didn't take the lead for -- -- who's responsible and and work with the CIA and find out what network of terrorists -- We're responsible for this political held all been in Tripoli.
As much as we've been saying all -- haven't been able to get to see because it's too dangerous really appears to be that in the background -- didn't work -- -- -- -- coordinate -- -- authorities.
To further the investigation and before they get approval and authority to travel there wish to -- would be you go to our sovereign territory you go -- a consulate grounds no we should be able to stop right.
But there's still time work out a -- of the game rules and and and how -- you to cooperate with the Libyan military and -- -- -- law enforcement to try to find out who these people are and to this day.
We as of this hour that's still under way so they -- country ready to work on this but it appears to be a bit of scramble -- it does seem curious that.
This that -- consulate is attacked.
And we get FBI.
Officers on the ground.
And yet we don't getting into the consulate took to the crime scene.
When journalists and -- tennis.
Who wasn't I was one of the same -- all over the place job but it's a reflection of the.
Utter chaos and remember what movie is somewhat Libya isn't it isn't so well formulated nascent stage with the citizenry -- -- voting mechanism that everyone trusts and believes sending.
Cooperation through these period you know all of this stuff has been thrown together there's so many conflicting agendas on the ground there.
Yeah -- did again it's just total chaos and it will be big error and throughout the rest of them much of the Arab world for the next -- here.
In my view is that.
I mean this is our our our territory we -- know who win preserve the crime scene which we have not and then we send -- message -- weeks later.
To meet it diminishes the quality of and if you're gonna find that the crime -- dealing with an addict -- -- just all that -- back behind investigators don't know I think is -- well documented but let's not forget -- is that a couple of days after the incident.
Someone from another news organization from CNN found the diary of the mess I shouldn't we have been in there -- we have at least.
Send people -- to secure the perimeter gone in and found.
What we need them for other documents had been missing their seats that you -- could have been rifle through him and could have been found so I'm I'm just a little bit.
Concern we have -- demonstrative in our effort to be able to secure at least that -- and about operating.
It's different going back one decision that calm the security in the first place seems to look I have left a law to be desired I think you just want the best efforts of those -- -- sales right in the same time correct.
Evidence seems to shelves and then he asked for additional security.
In that machine and in Tripoli and wouldn't mind.
I wouldn't give it and I think the hearings will they have -- out.
Much more clearly but his supposedly communications.
From mr.
Stevens of -- Stevens is he asking for additional security to the point when he stopped jogging in the morning.
In Tripoli and as part of he's concerned all over the country and as a man who was there when the country was being taken over.
All right I wouldn't take a quick break -- thank you that's it for the list bill Daley former FBI -- And -- Ruskin former NYPD detective presidency in the group.
Thought thank you very -- we get.
