Power Play 10/5/12
Obama's negative campaign takes even harsher tone, can Romney keep it presidential? Stakes are up for veep debate.
- Duration 24:42
- Date Oct 5, 2012
Obama's negative campaign takes even harsher tone, can Romney keep it presidential? Stakes are up for veep debate.
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-- when I got onto the stage.
I met this.
Very spirited fellow who claim to be Mitt Romney.
But it but it couldn't.
-- -- Because the real -- running -- -- running around the country for the last year.
-- thing but trillion dollars in tax cuts that favor the wealthy.
And that was President Obama campaigning in Denver yesterday.
And this -- power quiet and let me taste of the Internet -- so happy Friday you can see Obama lack of neck where it is in fact Friday here -- -- in Washington DC.
-- let me tell -- something else.
And the other thing is this if you thought this was a rough and tumble campaign to this point.
And it sure sure as -- had spent.
In fact it's better get a lot rougher for the final final 32 days after Mitt Romney.
Landed a serious blow to President Obama on Wednesday.
You talk about that.
We'll talk about a bunch of other things because we have recruited a legion of very Smart people when it comes to politics.
Who will edifying and entertain us for most of the next thirty minutes.
And that's where it's no time and introduce -- Joseph Trippi.
They really it's not being introduced you because.
You know very well in -- -- because in 2004 when he was working for Vermont governor Howard Dean he helped revolutionize.
The way that the Internet is used.
To make people president or make other people my president.
And Byron York.
Who you know and -- -- my former colleague from the Washington examiner he's the chief political correspondent for that -- mobile publications -- -- Quite so this -- an admirable.
We welcome your brother your him.
OK so here's the deal.
We have new jobs number today.
And it says that unemployment went down.
Unemployment and really go down as the economy stagnant but basically the the economy continue doing what it has for the last several months which is.
Part of the job market -- as the last -- -- and basically treading -- 1141000 new jobs is about enough to make up for new people.
Entering the workforce and immigration and stuff like that so the president it's good news.
To put in perspective first.
For the president.
Whatever is inside the internals of these numbers he can be happy today.
That he knows I can write the lead for the evening newscasts tonight at a -- three will be after taking a shellacking in a debate the Newt.
Favorable economic numbers help the president turn it over.
Absolutely we'll leave it all talking for.
The better part of a year I don't know president's been reelected -- -- about 8%.
Since I was the you know at seven point 880 no no president has been reelected with unemployment over 7% -- -- I think the barber was his -- for whatever reasons everybody except the far both parties and -- I don't I don't you know that.
Didn't -- I didn't know that but you know so it's seven point eight.
I look I actually think what's significant about the jobs numbers though isn't it really points up how important Romney's performance -- the debate was I mean going into that debate billion we have.
President winning a national polls is leading in all the swing states opening up a little bit in Ohio forum even.
And and if you change the narrative and Obama wins the -- Romney has -- that night and then you come out of that today with these jobs numbers being at seven point -- again forget about what the internals of those numbers are.
How would we be I mean I think everybody -- have -- dynamics of this race and -- of the race would be.
You know pretty much finish so if you you know I think everything is that there's been a lot of news it's been stable the president other than.
And I went on yeah it was everybody watched yes but it didn't -- in a 68 million people that didn't exist but it isn't the small -- -- another.
Oh yeah -- labels -- that performance didn't shock.
Neither because having.
Been up against them in the debates throughout -- 2008 primaries that's the same guy that showed up in the debates with Hillary Clinton and John -- he he really.
He beat you we've seen Hillary engage in that debate or Edwards engaged in those debates but very very rarely did the did the president.
Then senator and engaged in the in the dynamic.
The -- violates why and this is it the Internet as well this is one of my favorite piece both parties talk about the top line unemployment -- now right.
The Republicans that they love to say -- -- -- 8% about it and they create an artificial virtual.
We know you know because you hear me complain about it constantly.
That in fact in a stagnant economy that top line unemployment rate is relatively.
Unimportant and now the Republicans will be wasted -- on their own -- they are.
I mean this is it's well first of all we paid attention to that -- For for decades and decades and decades that's just the way it is and Mitt Romney's.
Line which she used in the debate and -- used literally one point five million times before that.
Is that we've had 43 months of unemployment above 8% of that goes the way he has I would just that -- and and he's he's -- very resourceful of you will find a new line I mean his his first reaction.
Today was this is not what a real recovery looks looks like so he's he's working on his lines but that the practice.
People don't look at the U six rate which is in the closing months or you unemployment rate when you count the people who have actually become discouraged and given up for looking and and all that sort of stuff they just look at that eight point one an eight point one has now become seven point any.
Well which is by the -- the same rate it was.
When he does that number the seven point eight number and I understand people found out all those things keep getting back the other numbers.
But the seven point eight numbers the same numbers that existed the date the president which is a lot of homicide it offers pop in his speech at George Mason University where he said.
We've just learned that unemployment has returned to his back to the lowest rate since I took the size so a joke and Twitter followers do you have.
One million summer and -- you follow me.
I don't know now.
He doesn't it's okay Internet it's fine but -- should already on Friday shows is that you you should you should follow me if it and -- -- never have a million -- -- you will like -- will help him get to a million Ashton Kutcher.
If you -- follow me is like the action picture of democratic strategist but if he did follow me on -- you would already have my column for today.
My parent my confidence is -- people that debate was a big deal here is -- evidence point to that end which is.
-- swing state -- just down.
Now you put whatever stop these -- tracking -- as we asked American Scott Rasmussen these are touch.
Phones don't include the -- so we stipulate how hard and complicated pulling us.
That show that in the one day cents and pulls the one day since.
Oh that Romney close the gap in Ohio.
Now it's 4746.
Or -- the 49.
In -- Romney now in the lead 4946.
I if I got the impression in the spin room after the debate.
David -- said.
I can I just don't think that's gonna have a huge effect to the viewer watching in Ohio or in Florida.
It became clear after listened -- and Jim Messina.
That their view was that the president's performance for all the criticism.
About it would probably play reasonably well.
Among very small numbers of voters that they're targeting in the key swing states and they kind of feel -- the rest of it is chatter.
I mean I got there and today and in the next day I would on Air Force One plus said is that -- gonna help them -- Ohio if he doesn't he won't become prestige.
-- -- -- -- -- right alleyway did you -- I was an owner of I think he's right about that if the -- if it doesn't help them win Ohio is actively present with the and also the -- -- that example actually adamant the last Rasmussen hope for this at one point -- by the president in Ohio and this -- as this is the only changes that interest thing.
Yeah yeah I think both.
Undecideds broke her I mean.
Whatever happened whatever act as -- mean -- yeah but everything went up and basically east doesn't want to point me some.
As previously secular.
-- -- -- that also that only has one day right of it we don't know yet I don't know if you know Sunday morning.
Sunday morning and Monday -- -- analog form fortunately we have we will have -- -- -- telecast on Monday we'll tell you about that.
But the comparison is being made the the argument about this debate it's like oh you know what.
Incumbent presidents always think that their first debate this is not a big deal this is not like that.
And a lot of comparisons have been made to George W.
Bush in 2004.
Who had a crummy debate performance against John Kerry the first time and another one was compared.
That Ronald Reagan in 1984 against Walter Mondale looked rusty coming out of -- -- so that's already out there.
But here is what I want to tell you -- you -- -- and you and I want to -- you guys to respond.
In John Kerry in 2004.
The CNN poll taken immediately afterward among those who watch the debates and 53%.
Thought -- one.
For Mitt Romney it was.
Said that he wants.
And this is a debate that is more likely to move the needle than those other two also because of what you mentioned.
Is that by the time you put in those of you watch us here on -- Internet Tito's.
Warned that seventy million people -- this.
Well the -- that the big thing is Obama had a bad performance.
But Romney was really good -- -- really got me that's the that's the difference here I mean I think crossing was vastly better in this first debate and John Kerry was -- -- first debate in a four feet.
I don't think that would I don't think.
Barack Obama was any different in this debate -- he was an -- the other debates -- great fit in his this -- site where he could he's a decent -- it's not what it's.
Look now all the things -- -- that.
I think Romney had.
A great debate he really did and had to say on the Internet it's a total guess -- just lower gas.
Do you have that is this lower case -- anyway but that -- but he had a great look he he knew the facts.
He backed down of the president of the United States or the moderator and he didn't do that such a way -- Which you can do which goes over the line and doesn't you know that looks.
Nine presidential he didn't he did really well stipulate.
But Byron York against the advice of his agent -- great being with us throughout the Internet telecast today we'll talk more with them.
We will look at your -- we will do all sorts of interesting things you will be entertained and at a fine.
But your entertainment and -- from just that he's come to an end to the -- Hannity tonight is -- not so.
Yeah -- yeah I think.
Yeah definitely I think the united if they keep them if they keep me I guess there's lots more to come we won't your friend -- -- will be here your friend Juan Williams will join us you will enjoy yourself I know what's true.
So stick around.
The president talked about his vision which was basically a continuation of the policies of the last four years he wants another stimulus.
He wants to have government investing for us he wants to hire more government workers he wants to raise taxes.
That was -- Willard Mitt Romney -- Republicans nominated him to be their candidate for president talking to Sean Hannity.
Who is host on the Fox News -- you may have heard of him.
And this is power play welcome back.
And welcome back Byron York who is the senior cheaper than you really she's she's -- chief chief political correspondent.
The -- former employer.
And you're a friend of mine Internet.
Juan Williams joins us now from New York City from the mother ship of the foxnews.com empire want to welcome thank you -- -- good hello.
I we'll see if this bother -- lasts.
Mitt Romney last night was done to Sean Hannity -- -- and he was stance on what he's doing a rally in Virginia today.
Now I want you to take off the blue cap and put on the analysts cap and answer this question.
For Mitt Romney what does he need to do to -- laid a solid.
Victory in Wednesday's debate into a lasting bounce -- a changed dynamic in the race.
Well at least he didn't say the dunce cap full.
I don't know why you think I'm wearing a boot camp but I would say this -- I I think I think that what Mitt Romney has to do is in a sense.
Energized his base just make sure that the money stays in place that people want to and I don't think he needs to do much after there.
Consensus that he won the debate on Wednesday night I think it has reenergize the base and and shored up that money but I mean prior to that.
There was fear that people were just losing faith and in the idea that he could win I don't I think that has gone away so he just needs to do what he did yesterday.
When he went out and instead you know we had a great night we're on our way he's got as foreign policy speech coming up Monday -- BMI Virginia militaries do.
He's got to now start hammering that that is a vulnerability point for Obama.
So he just needs to keep hammering at those vulnerability points as they're revealed in the polls in order to build on what he.
Think the momentum he generated on Wednesday night.
What what one is saying is -- I mean before that debate there was a worry.
Among some Republicans that that was kind of the smell of death about the Romney campaign and the fear was.
Was that some donors would say well this guy's not gonna win and we need to make sure we keep the house.
And perhaps win the senate and we need to put our money in those things and -- would -- not give that money to the Romney campaign that is totally.
Totally gone away and me and the other thing about what one says it is.
Running east to keep doing a bit but it's actually going to be kind of done for him because these debates are coming up pretty fast and furious prediction you have -- does not -- -- -- -- -- -- The vice president debate is on October 11 -- an ending next presidential debate on October 16 and then the last one on October 22.
They come up really fast and will almost not be finished talking about one when the next one happens so there really -- and unless something on for -- news event happens.
-- -- gonna dominate the campaign more than any rallies or speeches that the candidates give.
Wanna I wanna get your take on something that they knew it was very Smart and she knows a thing or two about good optics -- presidential campaign instead broke today in an excellent column.
The Wall Street Journal that the thing for Romney to do is quit worrying about looking.
Like a man of the people.
Where it is NASCAR jacket and if she's at high thread -- open collared shirt.
To quit trying to look like the -- of the people and look like who he is and look it she said most importantly presidential she said.
Drop the hate -- bring out the -- by the great bring out the American flags and look like the data on president where he -- like he did on Wednesday and that means wearing a necktie and I can tell you might might Adam's apple has never felt -- -- -- it does right now.
-- what do you think about her advice.
You know I think that the question here is one of authenticity.
And if you ask me about and I this goes back to the convention and then all of you know they're they're attempt to portray themselves as people who know struggle.
It just never struck me is authentic I think it resonated in terms of being in authentic.
So what you're hearing from Peggy Noonan has looked Mitt Romney you actually look like a guy who belongs on the dollar -- you look presidential because -- yeah.
Yeah I think you know what they've got -- -- you think you're up by eight played -- year's grants awarded this grant this.
He looks like the head of a huge company or the president of the United States -- that handsome man.
Any looks like it's a wise man so don't play like -- all one of the people play like you're the leader of the people.
Why don't you think this applies to the president to I -- he I think he wears a suit very well he comes out.
For this for this first speech today after in Denver and he's wearing khakis.
And a sport shirt and a windbreaker and and I do you look very presidential he's the president I mean shouldn't he be coming out should he take this Peggy -- advice to.
You know I don't think so Yeltsin at the interest they point but I think that one of this grant that President Obama has is that.
People can imagine him as the neighbor but he's obviously -- It's Smart very.
You know accomplished guy I -- goes -- hasn't -- education and all that.
But I think for him it's -- they you know white the other guys that one it's not looking out for the middle class so if you think of it in terms of matching your feet.
Romney theme is I know how to fix this economy I have business experience -- -- -- a governor I really know what I'm doing.
That it looking like the president fits him and his campaign think -- Obama.
He wants to look like one of the middle class that he says he represents that he knows what's going on and that the other guy.
Is the guy who's the rich out of touch individuals I think.
Again you have the -- of what the message you're trying to deliver the optics have to match the message.
Why wave can people see you do something other than that's not that that we debated but not in -- here have been doing anything -- -- Fox News Latino or anyplace else.
-- I do admit that this afternoon I'm gonna have a co host of the five and remove snap.
Yeah and then pulled the best of battles out yeah -- given a big time -- and I think Florida.
I want to thank you wolf what one doesn't wanna tell you is that -- slash my bet is tires so that he could not make it to this yeah.
That's -- I -- we'll see you soon take care Chris.
Okay real quick before do is we're gonna come back as there's more raw.
Internet excellence coming -- Todd times says can we forget about the jobs numbers.
Most people believe that numbers can be fudge that can be rigged and there's a lot of discussion here in the chat about that I -- I want to shed some light on you.
But from our partners Everett Fox Business more than 870000.
People entered the workforce that's how the number -- so that's a big deal right.
The point that they're making over champion and this is something to be aware of is that we're now including that included in this number.
Or a lot of part time jobs in the service industry more than 600000.
So the way that this number change so dramatically.
Was that a lot of people flipping burgers or making you're event T shy latte whatever.
Are included in this number this time.
And that may be -- so that's -- to all of your points.
Biron will be with us still when we come back we will have Charles who have power points where you we will have the lovely and talented and he -- -- -- -- we do.
Obama and Biden want to raise taxes by a trillion dollars and guess what.
Yes we do in one regard.
We want to let that trillion dollar tax credit expires of the middle class doesn't have to bear the burden.
Of all that money going to the super wealthy.
Vice president Joseph Biden made it even more clear.
He asked himself a question.
Asked if he and President Obama.
18 trillion dollar tax hike and his response to himself was yes we do.
That's a direct quote friends.
No we don't.
And -- -- and sound bytes is a forecast of what's gonna go down next week win vice president Joseph Biden faces off with congressman Paul Ryan.
The running mates the undercard.
Debate and this is power play.
And you heard thanks exit and -- -- from there.
Again confounding that the hopes and dreams of the Obama campaign -- on the trail saying stuff that you're not supposed to say.
Because we don't know that the tax increase is real that it's the rates would go up in that rich people or high earners would be taxed more.
But you're not supposed to say it for good.
That's sick you're not supposed to say that -- is -- fair -- a joke that's ridiculous to say mister vice president.
So welcomed that show one of your very favorite.
And he -- she is the president principle of that strategy she is a Democrat.
Through her resonate.
She is that a former advisor to senate majority leader Harry Reid Ed Rendell and other famous and important Democrats -- the Internet is always good to -- you.
The end Byron York and by the good.
-- you know here's the thing.
-- -- This vice presidential debate.
I don't I don't know what to say.
About what's going to happen.
For this and they're doing it and in I believe.
It -- -- -- center college which is a fine excuse for the great music program has very good but it and it's and -- Kentucky.
The there're there -- dangers for both of them the dangers are huge for Vice President Biden says stuff all the time that he's not supposed to say there's danger polarizing looking like what we're snapper and a Smart -- -- 42 year old vs the titans like seventy I think that it could -- -- whatever.
No indicating that handicap that -- the race.
Well you know I think everybody is easy just to see going into the presidential made everybody -- Barack Obama are intertwined you're concerned here at the expectations that this is -- and Paul Ryan hardy has -- -- been saying you know.
Why do we might not the floor because of all of the statistics and Faxon and all the things -- is ready hand in his PowerPoint ready to go.
But the same time I mean yes Joseph Biden.
Let Joseph be Joseph I don't think that's gonna behavior that -- -- -- and -- going to be hearing that -- Biggio on.
Hope those for you then you fix this script close.
-- -- we don't get out of there let cool we mean terrifically accurate.
He's killed he as a skilled debater he's been in this it was in the senate for thirty some odd years and he does know how to make it can -- -- I think one of his best lines and can be nice.
In the best -- doesn't -- he doesn't want to know that when they get big and bring -- into debate with England when he said do you have anything further to cities that know.
As the best and that's -- little.
-- he remembers -- channels as his past performance but he did do well again.
I was his post on -- that's yeah.
-- -- got -- she's legendary.
If you -- -- senate and Judiciary Committee hearing and there there confirming a Supreme Court justice needs senator has ten minutes and by NASA nine minute 572 question.
Leading the editor's note to the nominee -- -- he.
So I thought about -- -- -- I am -- well you know when you go to it to rallies right and these are his these are his supporters as a Republican rallies one of -- the main reactions you get to people about -- I don't really know him through this area so that will come out I am really okay.
Now he's I mean he would do not.
Do not underestimate but it's not underestimate just never underestimate your opponent and Republicans tending -- him as a clown but he can make it kind of emotional connections are huge win that middle class workers we have.
Ago and we thank you for joining us Byron we thank you for your wise counsel throughout today's Internet dominance.
OK and now for a few power points.
It was an enormous debate.
Now look this CW on Wednesday's debate is this.
Well really it's no big deal because incumbents always stumble and it's whatever and the president's gonna make comeback and it's not that big of a deal maybe.
But here's the truth the truth we know is that this was the most watched debate in twenty years we know that it was the most decisive win -- -- challenger in at least that long.
So here's what this was and don't kid yourself and don't let anybody tell you otherwise this was a race reset.
We don't know whether Mitt Romney can take advantage of it we don't know what the president is going to dump on Mitt Romney's head we don't know anything that's gonna happen.
But a race that was already in flux is very much influx now so you know what you ought to do.
Got to probably watch Howard -- at -- who can tell you what's going on on the hunt Jonathan Hunt is up next.
And we'll see on Monday and now as we like to do every day we want to leave you with the word from our friend Charles.
-- Romney on the rebounding to be very not a worry.