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    Can Biden make up for Obama's lackluster performance?

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Earlier we showed you some Fox News polls showing that Mitt Romney got a -- bump after last week's debate.

And tonight vice president Joseph Biden hoping to regain some momentum for the democratic ticket.

When he and congressman Paul -- face Sox while both are expected to come out swinging but Chris question a lot of folks are asking MVP debate.

Really be a game changer let's ask presidential historian Rick nick went down good morning thanks for coming up -- -- so -- it -- -- game changer.

Historically it has not been if you remember.

Dan Quayle had a very -- performance since Lloyd Bentsen didn't mean anything Dukakis won big I think 2004 Dick Cheney did a really nice job against Edwards and kind of kept the momentum that bush and established.

For for the most part people vote for the top of the to -- ticket now in this case maybe vice federal.

The Vice President Biden could change the conversation from which would be a win for Obama if he could do that who has more to lose going into this tonight.

I think Paul Ryan does in the sense that he's inexperienced.

The American public doesn't really know Paul Ryan has so this is a huge opportunity for him to introduce himself.

And so he needs to hold his own he needs to be seen as so -- -- step in for Mitt Romney.

And there is a little bit of -- stature gap with him in the vice president so he needs to close that and look like he belongs and -- -- but that's.

Also work in his favor as we saw when Vice President Cheney would nod and Dick Cheney and John -- worked together.

Let's take a look at a clincher that some viewers remind you of that take -- The first time -- ever -- you was when you walked on the stage tonight.

And that gave a real distance speed -- -- you you saw the generational gap there.

But also a gap in -- it was a brilliant move by Dick Cheney and it said that you know you're newcomer nobody knows who you are so I think vice president -- is probably going into with that same feel like is a chance for me to say I've been around for a long time I know foreign policy.

You don't -- Paul Ryan the expectations are low on him which are good is so long as he stays on that stage.

And -- Sarah Connor holds his own but it'll be fine OK let's take a look at another blender here and this is admiral Stockdale we all remember that's with Ross Perot getting in the race take a look.

-- -- -- Why am I here.

And today yeah that was back in 1990 of course that was a gore Quayle three way to death so I can never recovered he never recovered in a way to help to the Clinton and gore and that it it sort of -- Ross -- in the polls because it made it seem like a joke.

And it helped Al Gore nick picked up a lot of undecided swing voters are -- is it actually did help President Clinton okay and what about Sarah Palin back in the 2008 today it seemed like it kind of helped her case.

Because there were some low expectations were very low expectations and again she held her own she just seemed like she belonged on that stage -- -- stop the bleeding for the McCain campaign which was having a very poor a couple of weeks with financial crisis.

So she went in there -- stabilized that a little bit now that in win but she did in DC credible job I think Paul Ryan has to think about the same thing a decent credible job okay well that sounds easy enough but -- was easier said than what -- -- -- down thank you so much -- talking and presidential historian it is -- 25 minutes after the hour.