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Slept above -- what do you what if you were advising.
Congressman Ryan -- -- would you tell him to do on that stage tonight.
It's a bit if -- walk.
Bit of line between.
Stick -- the numbers you can out argue among the on the math on the other hand stay away from the -- curry and tried to appeal to.
Middle class voters -- show that your normal approachable kind of guy I think he can do both I think he should do both -- that when when it gets down in the -- that he does have better command of that.
Of the but to show that he is he is more than just guy angry and I sees that he is approachable give those who are getting their first introduction to -- I'm up an opportunity to -- an element and secondly Israel Brian said the Achilles heel of the Obama Biden ticket being their record.
He should be relatively relentless song that I think it as as Romney managed to do be aggressive without being.
Unlikable and then there's a lot of ammunition and.
-- -- -- It's instead pretty tough -- ended -- being Vice President Biden is obviously an experienced debater but he's going to be up against a guy tonight.
Who certainly has c'mon give the details whether you liked his details and off.
He will show he has commanded them -- -- all there's also the question of youth vs experience -- Ryan.
Don't look very youthful next to the vice president -- in better shape with his.
So how does the vice president combat all of that.
Yeah I know we can all take a lesson out of -- -- -- look -- playbook after other the so there there is noted no question about it there's going to be a stark contrast there in terms of style as well -- substance you're gonna have you know I think this senior state -- and somebody who has.
A tremendous amount of experience and and respect within Washington.
Going up against the guy Paul -- -- you know if -- as Smart as he -- is gonna look like almost the title that there -- 42 years old.
Going up against the 69 year old and I think the contrast there I think it's going to be really challenging for Paul Ryan to be as assertive as he needs to be.
While being as respectful and and and coming off as respectful of the office of the vice presidency as well as.
Joseph Biden's experience in Washington I think that the thing you mentioned before about Ryan -- which is -- fantastic with numbers and he's a good numbers guy.
It actually going to be a liability because in the past he said he can't.
He doesn't have time to explain why the five trillion dollar tax cut that favors the wealthy.
Is going to be able to be achievable without raising taxes on the middle class are increasing the deficit for the debt.
In this form out where you have over an hour to discuss these issues he's gonna have plenty of time could give details on how that's gonna be achieved and I think Vice President Biden will press them on that and I think he needs to come up with a very.
Coherent explanation of compelling to the American people because as yet we haven't heard one.
All right -- a couple of our view is weighing in here any list for instance says with regard -- your current guess what it's a tough position with the older workers.
Whoever said the government has the throw good money off the -- decisions to save jobs.
Only to see it possibly -- -- -- since nothing has changed the of that -- that that goes to the Ohio question flip.
And governor -- Romney's problem.
With the or difficulty of the -- local -- difficulty perhaps is -- a would.
With the with the auto bailout question how does -- how does he and how does congressman Ryan tonight -- -- that.
But I think Ryan has an opportunity to address that -- one of -- rhetorical skills is breaking down explaining relatively complex issues and in much greater substance then.
Jim is alive and and bin Laden is -- he can explain now.
Added the of the Obama plan for saw the Romney plan was not simply let Detroit died it was let them go through with the normal bankruptcy process and emerge stronger on the other -- they wouldn't stop selling cars and more than every airline that's gone bankrupt not stopped flying in bankruptcy.
-- explain how that would have emerged stronger by renegotiating contracts rather than.
In the very extra legal way that Obama packaged the sort of non bankruptcy of giveaways to the gains in favor of the senior bondholders.
Not only was not in keeping with the law but left.
Auto sector that still has this albatross around their neck and will be less strong less competitive globally going forward.
I don't explain that as -- I know Ryan could he knew if I -- I saw I don't know if he'll broached the topic himself if if Biden.
Initiates it don't expect him.
Followed strong mock PU thing -- auto industry is going to be less strong.
Globally as as -- says because.
Of -- the president has done.
No I don't think it would is there's less strong now than if it went through Chapter Eleven -- filed for bankruptcy I think that you know.
I -- get the logic of letting the free market sort of work itself out and let the industry -- -- and -- these companies go belly up and then you know it hopefully they'll try to pull themselves out of bankruptcy but.
You know -- I don't think most Americans.
Really think agree with the fact that you know the auto industry would be in a stronger position now having gone through bankruptcy I think that's a little bit of an orwellian -- perverse.
Wisdom there I do think getting back to the debate tonight though it's going to be.
Almost the role reversal of -- where the -- where you have Paul Ryan is this sort of policy wonk -- sort of resembling almost President Obama in his level of knowledge about the failed policy and -- have Joseph Biden whose goodness you know as is his.
Nature and as in this style speak more from the -- speak more to the American people and while I didn't expect to see -- from Mitt Romney in the presidential debate.
He did it to -- -- more than more than I expected so I think.
You know it's going to be interesting if if people want to see.
Authenticity and wanna see somebody.
You know really identifying with the middle class and and speaking to them and -- in a way that really identifiable and and and pathetic I think you're gonna have a hard time beating.
Vice President Biden on that count I think -- in my experience and of watching him all right -- Then there's an interesting dynamic -- I think tonight in terms of foreign policy then moderate days Martha Raddatz of that ABC news a very good journalist says she's been criticized from the right so -- occasion because they think she has a liberal bias.
I think we should give -- more credit than that she is a very good report but if you think there's a biased criticize him tomorrow the performance not before it.
But because of interest she is senior foreign affairs correspondent with ABC -- gonna getting the -- policy flip.
There's a weakness that for the Obama administration quite clearly now if something went wrong in Libya right very clearly but at the same time.
It's not Paul -- strong point foreign policy he doesn't have foreign policy experience and.
How do you think that dynamic will -- tonight.
Well certainly in the resume -- Biden has more foreign policy experience but there again there's a lot that Biden can be made to answer for and and again Paul Ryan this is a good -- -- an explainer can draw out those questions and again from -- -- referendum perspective.
Ask ask Biden to make sense of the administration's handling of -- thus far and also pushing back on this issue or did this or presumption of Biden is the foreign policy.
Genius and and knew what we've seen from them in last four years on foreign policy we know that going into the 08 election.
His main thesis was break Iraq up to three pieces.
That do the one thing that they've publicly discussed.
Him giving significant input to the president on -- went in the foreign policy stage recently was because he disagreed with the decision to kill bit -- So if he he you know -- I'm not so sure -- that isn't simply Biden sacrificing himself and saying well wasn't is such a bold -- -- -- vice president disagreed he could afford to take him and his word that's fair game for Ryan to say this you know the easiest most lay up call.
Would you like this political gift of of capturing or killing bin Laden.
That Joseph Biden thought it was the wrong thing to do.
Plays against this again -- presumption of -- -- the great foreign policy -- not what -- -- anything it'll play out foreign policy wise tonight.
We got real quick on what I have to disagree completely I mean I think that yet there's been some reporting that Joseph Biden was weighing in no other options and and trying to give us a counterargument when deliberations to kill bin Laden were happening but.
You know that what what might play for Paul Ryan and a quick SoundBite won't play in in the format of the presidential debate where you know he's he's -- -- be really called to task for being.
Honest here in and you know the nuances of this this deliberation process -- actually going to be.
Hashed out I think foreign policy lake -- -- advice -- president playing Biden is recognized expert in the realm of foreign policy.
He was responsible for the -- -- down and and no responsible land to the war in Iraq you when you look at what.
Was put on his portfolio what President Obama gave.
President Biden as his sort of pet project is in the vice presidency it was the -- rescue and and the Recovery Act domestically and and it was.
I Iraq policy.
For from a foreign policy standpoint and both of those have been tremendous successes.
Not just in the eyes of Democrats but in the eyes of the American people so for I think -- gonna have a hard time making a case against those two on an unmitigated and qualify unqualified successes that the -- vice president.
Can they credit four on behalf of the administration.
All right some -- before we go -- first what how does it play out tonight overall.
I don't think Ryan will score as.
As lopsided victory but I think it'll be a decisive victory you know I think there's a reason that they've hidden Joseph Biden from any national interviews inside the five months ago gay marriage flop.
You know I think second perhaps only today to Obama's is Joseph Biden self regard and and I think that may have blood into his sound.
Six days of sequestered debate prep I think I think Ryan will play against type we'll come out as.
More approachable than just the knowledgeable -- I should -- that that he is not I have credit for I think.
I think -- be good kneipher from Iraq -- -- your predictions for the night.
I think I think Joseph -- gonna speak directly to the American people and it's not gonna necessarily be the routing that it was of Sarah Palin for years ago.
Because Paul Ryan is a formidable opponent but I think you're gonna have a clear contrast and the American people are going to.
-- policies that they agree with being articulated by the the vice president on behalf of this administration will get four more years out of it.
All right -- -- stop until -- -- John Kerry presidential campaign great to see you as always not.
Come back to New -- sitting down then and flipped did a little president of the American civic decision -- to have you the other -- thank you very much indeed all right we gonna get to -- team.
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