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And welcome back from -- the last vice president Joseph Biden smirking at nearly every point.
Point Paul Ryan made during last week's debate take -- listen -- this -- -- I don't know what world -- -- guys thank heavens we have these sanctions in place.
It's in spite of their opposite awful cut they'd given twenty waivers of -- sanction.
And all I have to point to are the results on two occasions that we had we we advocated for constituents were applying for grants I thought as we do.
We do that -- all constituents were I love that I love that look this plan.
-- -- -- 6400 dollar number it was misleading then it's totally inaccurate now this is a plan that's bipartisan deal keeps in his five trillion dollar plan I suppose.
It's been discredited by six other studies and even their own deputy campaign manager acknowledged that it wasn't correct.
I don't know this is our present I don't know we are under a lot of the rest to make a -- But I think it will be better served if we don't keep interrupting each other.
So what impact will this have on the road to the White House is asking Mitt Romney's former debate coach Brett O'Donnell -- nice to see this morning.
Good to be with you so what was the strategy going into this debate unleash Joseph Biden let him be the attack dog and let President Obama look like the nice guy what was.
-- you strategize all of these sayings -- had to be a strategy didn't admit it you've match that strategy.
Yeah I think it was to over correct you know I I wrote that this you know might be the counter balancing act to president Obama's.
-- performance the week before.
And so I think you know the signal from Joseph Biden was I'm gonna show our base -- I'll go out and fight.
And I'll do it at any cost and I think he really cross a line a few times.
So now was this an Al Gore mall and bearing in mind of course at the -- debates where the presidential debates therefore I.
Different states -- Scott Rasmussen on the show last week we asked in this very question about vice presidential based do they move the needle at all he said no.
So do you think this moves the needle all.
Well probably not I mean I think if you looked at the poll results it looks like the divide broke down on partisan lines in terms of who won or lost the debate.
So what -- probably did was energize both sides.
You know that that Joseph Biden turn in the performance he needed to for his base but whether or not it'll move poll numbers you know I don't I probably would say it would not.
Democrats for a -- ecstatic and his performance afterwards Republicans were fired up the real question is those 6%.
To your point those swing voters those not necessarily independent voters but those swing voters those 6% that are still floating around out there that need to be persuaded one way or the other do you think it moves -- -- on any of those guys.
Well I think that you know they should but the Democrats should be worried by Joseph Biden's performance because -- 6% may be the number that's turned off.
By the president's performance the numbers are pretty clear that.
Women voters were not happy with Joseph Biden's.
Style in the debate and so it could have -- some impact on those voters.
The guess it's a positive thing for the Obama camp though of course is that people vote the top of the ticket swing voters specifically probably vote the top of the ticket so looking ahead towards Tuesday Brad.
We have that all important town hall debate between the president.
And governor Romney so this is the second debate.
If you or advising President Obama going into this debate what do you say to him.
Well -- gotta get in the game you know it was very obvious from the first debate that his head was not in the debate.
And that happens a lot with incumbent presidents they just do not take the debates -- seriously because they're the president they've been working with those issues.
The offices pretty encompassing and so.
They don't take the idea of the presidential debates as seriously as they did when they were candidates and so he really has to step up his game and be focused in the debate the one thing that.
You know he sort of showed was that he wasn't that interested in.
The process and I think he's got to show that he is willing to fight for the ideas that he believes and in this debate.
Obviously is a former debate coach for for Mitt Romney he had to deal -- obviously during during primary battles and such where he had to.
Appealed to the base and talk about beings in -- severely conservative and all of these things.
And he comes out in the debate a lot of criticism is that he moved more moderately did that catch President Obama flat footed because they have been trying to paint him as severely conservative all summer.
I don't know that was that he moved more moderately I think it was more that he was the aggressor in the debate -- that he had a clear vision and message.
And that he prosecuted that through the entire debate I think that's what put.
President Obama on his heels not that he move more moderate leader -- these are all excuses I think the Democrats are coming up with.
For the president's -- for poor performance last week I think it's more.
-- a a strategy that the that.
Governor Romney put in place in the debate that was very effective.
Well at least one thing -- presidents have to worry about as high altitude.
During this custody at the -- but it to be a different format Brett O'Donnell former debate coach for governor Romney and shall Bachmann as well.
A -- nice to see you this morning.
Good to see you.
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