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Basil Smikle Jr and Cheri Jacobus on expectations for President Obama and Governor Romney
- Duration 10:55
- Date Oct 15, 2012
Basil Smikle Jr and Cheri Jacobus on expectations for President Obama and Governor Romney
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-- -- your way I'll start with you what are your thoughts on what we're gonna see tomorrow how do you think this is all gonna play out.
I think it'll be a different dynamic not just because of the format that because the expectations are -- different prevent candidates.
-- met Ronnie did very very well the -- continued to do well and Barack Obama did for a late in the last debate itself.
If he does better than his first showing people assail me -- greatest friends in the media and and I'll have the people on his team will say that it was a win.
But I think what's going to obviously make -- very different is is that the town hall style right Barack Obama's style and his -- this is like ability even people who.
Don't want to vote for him and disagree with him.
On issues they they think he's a likable guy so he can probably continue to keep that going and less he tries to be too aggressive he -- below it.
And -- -- Cassidy is likable as possible and still be.
Aggressive like he was in the first debate took a little bit of a talent on both sides to you know get their digs -- and make their points and challenge the other guy.
That still be likable.
Break it you know that the Wall Street Journal New York Times point out that you they have to be able to make that transition.
A Basil other houses in when the people ask the questions not using them in a sense you know not you they need to listen to them -- dress them and then makes the turn.
And I read that said that Mitt Romney has done more of these town hall style meetings lately right then Obama -- what do you think about it.
I think that's absolutely right Mitt Romney -- governor Romney has gone more in the last year or so but I do think the format favors Barack.
The one thing about the last presidential debate that the president really needs to do this to be his hit it.
It's a very it's a very subtle point it's sort of it's -- pretty new ones but.
But voters and people watching actually do notice when you don't do it.
Meaning it exactly as you said.
Be able to take the question not only can make the distinction between himself the president and governor Romney but also Alston also answer -- -- -- Two too good to make sure that do good person asking the question.
Actually feel satisfied.
And so it's something that the president really was not good at doing in the first debate that he has to do now and yes I think the format does favor.
The president why it.
Mitt Romney has had a few more chances to practice.
I think -- -- so many people were so surprised.
How the first debate went down -- as you said I mean this is so important.
For both of them.
I understand that and of course and obviously both have been practicing and and going through their mock debates.
-- and and they have you know some key players in their asking questions playing the other guy.
You know do you think -- -- do you think we're gonna see a stark difference tomorrow from -- the first time.
Yes but mainly because of the format but my sense is that Barack Obama in that in 2012 it's a very different person.
He's seeing now that the job is hard he's seeing now.
That he was elected a lot because he's making history because he was so likable and -- -- this rock star quality.
But the country wasn't really.
Prepared for -- this sharp left turn that he took -- we are we doing these people knew he was saying that they weren't really believing he was that.
Liberal so he's he's had a a dose of reality -- a very inexperienced politician going and so at this point I think he's still.
Is he's a little bit you know is still bewildered.
Why he is no longer a rock star so a lot of its confidence a lot of it you know wondering what the heck happened since 2008.
He's a different person.
And I don't think it's just that he asked me different person and it -- in the first debate.
I think what we saw the first debate was kind of cool -- who he really is now without the teleprompter so if making get him back to Vietnam mindset that he was four years ago in his team then and they will have done a good job but I think -- -- I think it's a pretty tough battle forum.
And you know a lot of people are are taking a look at the numbers and of course the polls are you know they haven't that -- one thing that I wanted to bring up and and ask you both -- your opinion on.
Is Gary Johnson.
How -- Gary Johnson well we don't talk about Gary Johnson a lot and the New York Times picked up on.
On -- well of course everybody has picked up on Gary Johnson but when he was running for the Republican presidential nomination last year.
Gary Johnson the former two term Republican governor of New Mexico.
I did draw a draw some ridicule for the mainstream party members as he advocated legalizing marijuana and a 43% cut.
Military spending he of course is libertarian party's a presidential nominee we don't hear a lot.
About him but because the margin is so small -- between Obama and Romney right now and look people are starting to worry about him taking just a few of those.
-- some points away -- what do you think fassel.
It's it's an important conversation had he can do to Mitt Romney -- meter did right to the Democrats years ago and it's good to do Democrats and some very close elections so there is a huge concern.
If you go back and -- and listen to too.
He'll say that about Ross Perot -- that that Ross Perot took the election away from him.
So it is it is actually a real concern and know that the Romney team has.
Been following him very closely on as the papers have been reporting.
It's just that it's still fully in some ways yes -- -- by the -- and I think that's what you need to do because you need to really keep track on what.
What he's doing because it does it does matter this race is going to be a lot closer than we.
Experience in 2008 so that every vote does count so I think the right is that this is right to be concerned.
Jerry what about you what are your thoughts on Gary Johnson -- and his potential.
To steal away some -- votes.
Well I I agree this could be likely Nader did and what Brad did you know Bill Clinton won with with plurality and -- -- history of this Bill Clinton supposedly was running that year.
I 92 as is sort of practice.
Even got -- yet they -- the first time to their name out there and then right again he did not really expect to get the nomination let alone.
Two win that he won with a plurality he did not get a majority of the vote and and -- there might be.
Something down the road where we decide we have to change the rules -- -- that you have to.
Get a majority here you've been in a primary one party you -- -- can't ask me some way.
To prevent this from happening because we are getting people elected.
But -- -- -- senate majorities I think the country deserves better than that it's a problem for both parties the fact that Gary we -- the fact that you ran in the Republican primary and obviously didn't win is so -- -- rent with a libertarian.
The that's that's ridiculous it's unfair and that I wish I hope there's a way that we can put a stop to this sort of thing.
And that's a lot of the times points out the both sides do -- to mr.
Johnson who's pro marijuana legalization an anti war stances may appeal.
To the youth vote and his anti government anti spending proposals may appeal to conservative fiscal hawks.
And to supporters of mr.
Paul has the potential to drop from both mr.
Romney and Obama when asked about this mr.
Johnson said he had no problem being labeled as a potential spoiler.
In an election that he views as a debate between Coke and Pepsi.
-- said he viewed himself as -- But you know so you know cities could be a little trouble maker here in the sense of -- -- -- -- some of these important -- Yes and this and let's also be clear he doesn't have a lot of money and it's right and I don't think -- we are seeing a more.
Movement of sorts like you would -- meter mean Nader has had a following back to the sixties so there definitely was or is some kind of base that he's been able to called me to his.
But don't think you see that would Johnson today.
However it -- very crucial states and a very close election.
He he means he may do a little bit of damage but I -- one also say that.
We may be overstating it just a little bit because I don't really see a movement behind in person.
Right and as you said -- have to be a sliver -- having a look at 2000 that the year 2000.
How -- things were so I think it is a concern and at the end these last few weeks is such a small number of undecided vote for people.
-- -- sitting on the -- who could swing your way.
It's that switch their votes so you're really these candidates are really fighting a -- -- small number of people also Gary.
Theory doesn't it make a big difference I hate to say -- -- I wish it -- true but it absolutely could be true.
You know of and following your readership of the hill a wanna ask you I mean how how much -- people paying attention to Gary Johnson how much have you been noticing.
On in your circle there.
Now I mean I haven't but you know is is he reporting out they could be the youth vote the college kids and I don't hang out with them could to -- left handers I attend.
Yet but but again -- I -- I I never really thought that.
The people that were supporting Ron -- primary I didn't think Ron Paul -- there I didn't think it was a Republican and I thought he was a spoiler just being in the race.
Taking that time on the debate stage for Republican primary.
And I don't think that that -- Ron Paul voters were ever.
Going to be Republican voters so I thought that whole situation was a bit of a Friday and and you know -- -- lotteries -- and rightfully so LA they don't belong there.
-- -- Or we go wanna get your final thoughts in just a second but I just want to bring up the Washington Post ABC news -- -- its new.
A likely voters in this new poll split 49% for Obama to 46% for Romney basically on move from the pole.
A two weeks ago just before the two candidates met in Denver for their first debate.
I'll tell -- about T -- really quick for your final thoughts and maybe predictions.
They've ever been a margin of error is probably at a dead heat Ronnie may -- -- popular is doing better but what really matters is those seceding states as battleground states.
I think both men will be at their best and I think I'm going to have to give the edge to Romney because the momentum is with them.
But people start paying attention they do not like that I like the policies of Barack Obama even if they like Barack Obama -- -- and Basil.
The final comment.
-- I I think.
Will see a stronger but Barack Obama but I don't think he will make up for the deficit of his first.
His first to be I don't think he lost both and that -- -- what I think he he did was help Romney.
Significantly and I think -- we -- pretty much at that -- police right now.
I don't think it's going to get much better for -- and I don't think it would be that much better for Barack a credit do you think you'll see him come out a little stronger than Romney can't be overconfident tomorrow.
Is right and I good point are -- thank you both so much for being here on the panel we can -- -- on Twitter as it is seeing throughout this segment.
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We look forward to that as a thank you again to the panel -- take a.